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« Reply #270 on: October 09, 2006, 04:46:42 am »

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Perhaps the plan is all for a far future spinoff with Lane and her young daughter growing up together in a quirky Connecticut town...

As fun as that would be, I hope not. I think Lane will do just fine as a mommy and well it may push Zac more seriously towards his music seeing as he has something at stake now. Dun dun dun!
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« Reply #271 on: October 09, 2006, 05:39:57 am »

We finally got season 6 on the weekend and I have come up with a thought. Both big relationships lor has had (both Max and Luke) have been destroyed because Chris has come back on the scene. Although she never realy loved max even though she wanted to, one call to chris and BANG it's gone. I know there were other reasons aswell but both times he got close to lor while she was with luke, the same thing happened again.

The question I have is, is Jess going to be the same for Rory? He turns up in stars hollow and things start going bad for Rory and Dean. Years later and lots of water under the bridge, Jess shows up to tell her that he has written a book and gotten his life together and BANG goodbye Logan for a while. Although that was Logans fault for being such a dropkick after his life of being a playboy, he judged Rory for a past relationship.

There is a lot of talk about how Chris and Lor never got thier chance, but neither did Jess and Rory. If Logan and Rory can get over it and get it together and possibly get engaged this season (I'm speculating here) why can't Luke and Lor.

Remember this is comming from Australia where we never get GG on T.V so we watch it all in one hit.

thats it for now
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« Reply #272 on: October 09, 2006, 07:19:05 am »

* The whole Lane story line bugs me. First of all, Lane is not stupid. Even if they thought that re-creating a beach sex scene was romantic, the minute they were cold, dirty, and had crabs crawling on them, I find it hard to believe that they would have continued on (or even frankly that they could have physically - not exactly a turn-on physical situation!) Most people would have long before that realized it was a dumb idea, gotten dressed, and left.

The pregnancy is incredibly contrvied: there's no way Lane could know she's pregnant this fast, given that it's less than two weeks after they had sex! Her concerns about being a mom were all very real but I was surprised there was no mention of, say, how they were going to raise a kid with no money and in their current living conditions.


I totally agree with you! I dont know but Lane reaction to sex, for me it felt no Lane; it was like a totally different characther! Eventhough Rory was trying to tell her to give it another chance, she was so close about her opinion...I just doesnt feel it like her.

An the fact that she is pregnant I can stop thinking is kind of cruel.
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« Reply #273 on: October 09, 2006, 08:52:26 am »

I so cant wait for tomorrows epsoide  :Smiley :Smiley :Smiley :Smiley.

     
       Dose anyone esle think there was somthin to Luke and Lorelai off the show it really seemed like it.
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« Reply #274 on: October 09, 2006, 10:24:12 am »

how do u get to youtube
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« Reply #275 on: October 09, 2006, 11:44:46 am »

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« Reply #276 on: October 09, 2006, 01:13:42 pm »

KIRKs DINER. HALARIOUS. Their is even teh no cell phones, and the big coffee cup, its so cute. I hate tis seasons epis tho!
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« Reply #277 on: October 09, 2006, 01:28:32 pm »

just one hilarious thing i want to point out:
Rory: at least your better than michael jackson. he named his kid blanket.
Lane: right. do not name your kid after an inaminate object.

ummm, okay, Lane .

i also dont understand why everyone hates TJ, i think hes hilarious in a stupid sort of way. does anyone get what im talking about?
anyway i thought this episode sounded pretty much like a palladino-writeen episode. it was a little different at times (i mean seriously, lane, say sex one more time!) but overall i thought it was good.
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« Reply #278 on: October 09, 2006, 04:03:31 pm »

i thought the sadest part of this episode was at the grocery store when luke tells lorelai that they aren't "made" for eachother and it "can't" work between them and they "shouldnt" be together and whatever else he said. i thought it was so perposterous of him to say that to her after all that they've been through.

lane= pregnant! wow i would have never thought lol nice twist. kinda hard to believe though...
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« Reply #279 on: October 09, 2006, 07:14:29 pm »

However, Lane is generally a comic subplot, and pregancy at a young age without resources does not ring as "zany" as one would think.

The reason I mentioned the "no resources" angle wasn't to emphasize how contrived I think that plot point is (and, btw, thanks for agreeing with me on that :-> ) but out of surprise that Lane didn't mention this as one of her concerns about being pregnant. Seems to me like that would be one of the first things you'd think of if you were in that situation and that she would have included it along with concerns about being too young to be a good mom when she was freaking out with Rory.
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« Reply #280 on: October 09, 2006, 07:29:12 pm »

i thought the sadest part of this episode was at the grocery store when luke tells lorelai that they aren't "made" for eachother and it "can't" work between them and they "shouldnt" be together and whatever else he said. i thought it was so perposterous of him to say that to her after all that they've been through.

Luke is in such denial!!!!

What's up with the whole scene w/ TJ and his sis?  I mean did they really need a whole scene?
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« Reply #281 on: October 09, 2006, 09:17:07 pm »

I think they set it next to Rory's lecture to Lorelai to create a parallel between their post-breakup processes. Liz and Rory were telling Lorelai and Luke "You're always doing stupid things like this and losing people you love," each in the only way they could be heard.
Until that moment, Lorelai was trying to believe Christopher had nothing to do with her breakup and Luke was trying to believe Christopher was the only reason they broke up.

Their chance encounters show a similar parallel. Luke may have attempted to deny he was hurt by what she had done, but she attempted to apologize for it with a light 'I'm sorry' while passing him on a crosswalk first. She clearly wasn't ready to accept his anger, and it was to soon too volunteer it by apologizing.

The parallel breaks down at the supermarket when Luke has finally admitted that he can forgive (read: understand) why Lorelai had to act so rashly after their breakup. But he literally gives up on fighting their differences to be together, and this was clearly not the conclusion at which she had arrived. The hope in her face when he said he could forgive her and the disappointment she showed when he 'gave up' on L&L was more dramatic and potent than the 'I get the rocket! Oh... Christmas' scene. (Probably because it was in person instead of on the phone. They were both good scenes.)
It also made it seem like another 'now or never' moment in which he could have had all of her just by letting it happen. Whe he was yelling at Taylor for 'never listening to anyone and deciding what was best for everyone by himself,' he was really yelling at Lorelai. In the supermarket, he had a chance to decide.

Until the end of this scene, Lorelai still had hope. Sleeping with Christopher was an accident, and it happened while they were broken up when she was hurting and desperate not to be alone. If Luke could forgive her, she could forgive herself and they could pick up where they left off, determined to change together, blah blah blah long 'middle part,' happily ever after.

But literally nobody is willing to play along with pretending sex with Christopher doesn't matter (except Sookie, for some reason.)
Lorelai is fast. She thinks fast and acts fast and Luke would have to process a lot faster than he does to have any real input in her active decisions. But being with him has changed her and made her think more before she reacts to her feelings.
Luke is slow and independent and likes to be alone whe he's trying to think, but being with Lorelai has changed him and he's started acting on his own feelings by telling the people he cares about that he cares about them when he has the chance instead of fighting with them over their mistakes.

They both must feel like bumpers on each other's cars, but Luke never said that he was fighting anything to be with her before the supermarket scene.
Still, Lorelai loves him and also believes in love. If he'd fought for her by eloping (or just running after her) or even by pretending the night with Christopher didn't matter and kissing her in the supermarket (she's going home with me, Loser) she would have believed he'd just forgotten to unlock the door or didn't know how. The only way she would let go of the bumper was if he let go of the bumper of her racecar first.
 

One other thing - in the 'annoying' coversation with TJ (in the afternoon, after 'Kirk's' ad 'the crosswalk') TJ remarks repeatedly that Luke has 'quit drinking beer.'  Has he? I can't remember (maybe why a character had to mention it for me to notice.) I thought it might be some foreshadow to Luke starting to drink heavily. Is it possible his big breakdown scene will land him in the hospital with alcohol poisoning from slamming back a case of Zima?
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« Reply #282 on: October 09, 2006, 09:34:33 pm »

I would just like to say that this season of Gilmore Girls is totally and completely awful. Also, those of you who are arguing for four plus paragraphs that it's not awful are being paid by the network to say that. Or maybe you are one of the network's writers. If that is the case, Lessa, let me just assure you that it is not your fault. The network should have never fired the original writer. She knew the characters, she invented the town, the families, the history... everything. The new writers can't possibly know all that stuff, and when they try to pretend they do, it just doesn't ring true. The show is off, the timing is off, the dialogue is off, the background music is off. What's more, the new writers are apparently not witty enough to make Lorelai and Rory as witty as they were before. Now they are so dumbed down. Too much has happened in two episodes. This show has always had really witty, fast-paced dialogue and really slow plot action. Now the dialogue is agonizingly slow with all of these awkward pauses, but the plot is moving along at lightening speed. In short, Gilmore Girls has been dumbed down and made into a soap opera.
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« Reply #283 on: October 09, 2006, 09:52:11 pm »

there has only been 2 episode, it seems really early to be saying the season is terrible....ASP left and  the new writers are just doing the best they can with what they were left with. give them some slack and some time and things will work out fine.
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« Reply #284 on: October 09, 2006, 10:18:50 pm »

I would just like to say that this season of Gilmore Girls is totally and completely awful. Also, those of you who are arguing for four plus paragraphs that it's not awful are being paid by the network to say that. Or maybe you are one of the network's writers.

Interesting position to take: that because other people don't agree with your personal assessment, they must either be lying for money or have a personal stake in the show. I hate to shake your world view but you might consider that maybe, just maybe, your opinion isn't the only correct one in the world... You're entitled to your opinion that the show is awful. It would be nice if you extended the same courtesy to others who don't share your view.
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