1.12 - Double Date

[ilikemuffinchunks]

I love how crappy Jackson's cousin was to Lorelai. It is really great. Not in an "I hate Lorelai" way but in an "I think it is funny how crappy he would treat his first date with a person" kinda way. I hope he finds his match.

[steph_]

I dont think Jacksons cuz will ever find his match! LOL!

[HollowStar]

I can't imagine anyone thinking Lorelai was anything but gorgeous.  I never noticed her being that tall, but even still, let's say that she was and it was a big turn off to Roune (sp?) because he was rather short, but how can he still deny her beauty?  I would kill to be as pretty as Lauren, err, Lorelai. 

Todd was a total airhead, but I'm glad Lane got a chance to see that.  I've been in situations just like that so many times.  I thought I really liked this guy, pined for him for weeks, stared at him, dreamed about him, etc. only to find out that he wasn't really what I thought all along.  He turned out to be a jerk or weird or needy or pathetic or a lovely combination of all of the above.   

I love how cool of a mom Lorelai is but she also knows how to be a mom.  It's rare that you find a parent like that; one who knows when to be her daughter's best friend when to "play the mom card."  Usually parents that "cool" are the ones that never have an off button and so they let their kids get involved in things like drugs and alcohol.

Anyway, Jackson and Sookie were simply meant.  Sookie was so cute on the phone with the spoon, flipping her hair.  That's priceless.  I never thought anything of Jackson except that he was kind of a dork until he got cleaned up for their date.  Then I could see the potential.  Sookie and Jackson for the win!

[gilmore2972]

ok i would kill for a mom like lorelai

[LoveMe011]

i found it very comical to listen to somebody who didn't think lorelai was attractive. you always hear people raving about how gorgeous she is, and then here comes this weird guy who is apparently blind or something to that effect, complaining about how tall she is and how big her feet are. but if you notice, rune is a small guy, and i believe his lack of satisfaction with the matchup doesn't come from dissatisfaction with lorelai, but stems from dissatisfaction with his own self.
  i had an idea from the very first episode that something would end up happening between sookie and jackson at some point, but i definitely didn't expect it to be this soon. i like how she sort of came out of left field with the invitation and left him kind of speechless. i thought that was cute.
  i can relate with lane and rory's double date situation, with having lied to their moms and all. it's happened to me before, and i can totally feel that awful feeling lane must have felt when she heard the words "LANE KIM!" being shouted across the street at her. ick.
  i was glad to see lorelai's self esteem boosted at the last minute. "i'm a babe!"

[Tucker]

Did anyone else notice that the waiter in this episode who is confused about the muscles and carrots question, is the same guy who accidentally asked out sookie on a date in season 3 "I solemly swear"... At least I think its the same guy.

[wmushell]

Luke:  "What's a Rune?" 
Lorelai:  "Oh, please - not that question again!"   

I love when Lane goes into full-on crush mode.  Like most of us females, love is blind for her - until she actually has to spend an evening with the guy!    Everything about Todd would make anyone's brain cells diminish just speaking to him too long!  I love that Dean had the intuition they wouldn't work out - I've always thought that boys make better matchmakers than girls.

The irony of Rune being disappointed by having Lorelai as a date was classic!  She was very disoriented by the situation.  However, it was a great set-up for Luke and Lorelai to have a lovely scene together.  The card-playing reminded me of Lauren's highly successful stint on Celebrity Poker Showdown!  There's so much hope when Luke and Lorelai are discussing how wonderful the beginning of relationships can be.  Damn that Mrs. Kim for interrupting!!!   

Rune using knife to cut off the butter swan's head makes me smile every time.

My favorite part of the episode is Lorelai/Sookie and Rory/Lane all getting ready for the evening and going through the girl rituals of swapping lip gloss and doing hair and the like.  It is just a lovely glimpse into their friendships.

[bingbong]

I enjoyed Luke & Lorelai playing cards and hanging out like buds, but Luke wimped out on legitimately asking out Lorelai. He gave a vague "we should do this again" and then in the final scene says how they were interrupted before he could kick her butt in poker. Lorelai knew what he wanted to say but he didn't say it. Max wasted no time pursuing her. Luke yearns and yearns. Meanwhile, even Todd gets to announce that Lorelai is a babe!

I think ASP's message is that a date need not be formal and fancy to be a good one. As soon as the formalities were stripped away, Sookie and Jackson allowed their natural attraction to show itself. Same with Luke & Lorelai as they casually played cards and enjoyed each other's company.

With Lane, i think Mrs. Kim  has her so tied down that she reaches desperately for anyone or anything she can get, including some guy she doesn't even know. She needs to groove on someone outside her mother's realm.

Possibly my favorite scene is the one between Lorelai and Mrs. Kim. The line where Lorelai says she does not want Rory to be like her stands out. Rory of course sees Lorelai as a role model, her guide through life in many ways, yet Lorelai has more than once made that kind of self-depracating remark. She made it in "Rory's Dance" as well when fighting with Emily. Her words apparently had an effect on Mrs. Kim, who allowed Lane outside as far as the store sign!

[lessa]

Heh, Mrs. Kim already knew that Lorelai didn't want Rory to be like her, but it must have been really good to hear it at that moment. Lorelai humbles herself to Mrs. Kim a lot for Lane's sake, it makes me wonder what kind of person could have interceded that way for Lorelai and Emily. I mean, I bet Mrs. Kim has some major parenting envy there if she believes Lorelai about Rory's fidelity, but at least she respects that Lorelai knows what not to do as far as helping a child avoid early motherhood.

And I liked the fractured fairy-tale double dates. I mean, up to now it's like there are gorgeous, intelligent guys that inspire love at first sight falling out of the trees like ripe apples. Here they're surrounded by dorks who either can't relate to powerful, intelligent women or only care about looks. I mean. Luke seeing the benefits of tallness and joking with Lorelai because she doesn't like pity and he doesn't do pity anyway is just ship candy. The most attractive (or unattractive) person in the world is still a person whom you will never know if you can't get over the way he or she looks (or the marathon kissing) and talk.

Either that, or the writer has a deep-seated aversion to set-up dates.

[bingbong]

The fact that Mrs. Kim allows Rory to hang out with Lane at all is a de facto thumbs-up of Rory and by extension Lorelai. Rory is one of the few aspects of Lane's life that she does not have to conceal from her mom. Mrs. Kim knows that Rory is a straight A student and attends a highly touted high school and must see that she is an upstanding person. Even her hard head must give a bit of credit to Lorelai.

[lessa]

Maybe. Or maybe it just never comes up. Lane seems awfully picky about her friends, maybe Rory was the only non-male on whom she wanted to spend her minuscule hanging-out time. It's hard to picture Lane wishing Rory would grow a pair as much as Lorelai did, but she sure ran with it when Rory finally got a life worth living vicariously.

[SIDNEY]

I think it was really funny how Rune was -believe it or not- less thrilled of the match out than Lorelai . Where could he find better? But i thought Lorelai was so sweet not to say anything for Sookie's sake. I give her credit because that was a hard thing to do.

I think Sookie was so cute in her date. I felt releived when she finally told Jackson to stay and i loved how he told Rune to take off on his own. It was about time. They are perfect for each other. Both so simple and nice.

lessa, I don't think that Lane is picky about her friends. She always seems to fit in everywhere. That's always been something special about her character and that what made her survive through the entire series.

I think ASP's message is that a date need not be formal and fancy to be a good one. As soon as the formalities were stripped away, Sookie and Jackson allowed their natural attraction to show itself.

You are right. That idea was shown more than once in the show like Lane's first date with Zack. For me, I agree with the idea and i love it. I think that Lorelai/ Max's first date also fits in that idea;  Unplaned, simple and really charming. The best date of all.

With Lane, i think Mrs. Kim  has her so tied down that she reaches desperately for anyone or anything she can get, including some guy she doesn't even know. She needs to groove on someone outside her mother's realm.

I am against Mrs. Kim's way of raising Lane. Lane is naturally a great kid yet Mrs. Kim is too strict with her. That's beyond crazy. Like for example she gives her 5 minutes to talk on the phone and prevents her from receiving any calls after 9. What's up with that?

Possibly my favorite scene is the one between Lorelai and Mrs. Kim. The line where Lorelai says she does not want Rory to be like her stands out. Rory of course sees Lorelai as a role model, her guide through life in many ways, yet Lorelai has more than once made that kind of self-depracating remark. She made it in "Rory's Dance" as well when fighting with Emily. Her words apparently had an effect on Mrs. Kim, who allowed Lane outside as far as the store sign!

I have noticed that and i never got it. Lorelai always talks about how happy and proud of who she is and what she's done with her life and how she has no regrets but then her biggest fear turns to be the idea of Rory becoming like her. What did Lorelai do that was so wrong anyway?

[bingbong]

... Lorelai always talks about how happy and proud of who she is and what she's done with her life and how she has no regrets but then her biggest fear turns to be the idea of Rory becoming like her. What did Lorelai do that was so wrong anyway?

I think this is part of the complexity of the character. Lorelai is proud of Rory and the life she has created for her and knows she has done a great job raising her. But i suppose she also has moments of low self-esteem or self doubt, such as this moment while talking to Mrs. Kim. Maybe it's no accident that these feelings come out when she is talking to Mrs. Kim or Emily, two people who can make anyone feel a little smaller in size. Or, she might be having sudden flashbacks to when she was a teenager and went against the grain and created more trouble than Rory or Lane. 

Back to Mrs. Kim, she still hints that she has a husband. She says to Lorelai, "Lane is not allowed to date boys unless we have approved them. She knows that, she knows our rules and she broke them. That is unacceptable. "

We have approved... our rules. I would like to someday meet Mr. Kim and hear his views! 

[*Java Junkie*]

OMG that rune like luke said to lorelai once........lots and lots of work lol.

I think its one of my season 1 favorite episode,very funny one and some very good lines and of course a very sweet java junkie moment.

[bubbleguminadish]

i just recently purchased season one of gilmore girls!  i have been having such a fun time watching these episodes, and getting caught up in this little dream world.

this has been one of my favorite episodes so far.  i was laughing the whole way through!!  LOVED the whole double date situation with sookie and lorelai, having rune be repulsed by lorelai was hilarious!!!!!!!!  "so, what size of shoe do you wear??"