3.07 - The Shoot Gilmores, Don't They?

[Tucker]

Why didnt lorelai just dance with kirk to win ? 

[bingbong]

I think she toyed with Dean long enough and he was very patient with her. I'm just glad that he was the one to break up with her. He didn't deserve to be treated like trash and i'm glad he kept what's left of his pride. Rory was so selfish and insensitive and was denying what's obvious.

...I think it's funny how Kirk is very committed to winning that dance because it's the only thing he has. Ok, that is also sad. I think Lorelai only wanted to win to tease him.

It's amazing that Dean wanted her back after all this happened. i think in later episodes he enjoyed getting inside Jess' head and trying to turn the tables, at least until Lindsay came along. A lot of people would never have forgiven someone for treating them so poorly.

Kirk's victory lap at the end to the "Rocky" theme is hysterical! Winning these dances was probably the high point of that pitiful guy's life until Lulu came along.

[SIDNEY]

It's amazing that Dean wanted her back after all this happened. i think in later episodes he enjoyed getting inside Jess' head and trying to turn the tables, at least until Lindsay came along. A lot of people would never have forgiven someone for treating them so poorly.

I have always been amazed by that myself! When Dean started messing up with Jess's mind, i thought he was going to win Rory back but then Lindsay showed up. I find it very strange that Dean announced he was going to marry her after he got into fight with Jess for Rory. I think that was no concidence. I think Lindsay had a fight with him, wanted to break up telling him he's still in love with Rory and to convince her she was wrong, he proposed.

[bingbong]

...I have always been amazed by that myself! When Dean started messing up with Jess's mind, i thought he was going to win Rory back but then Lindsay showed up. I find it very strange that Dean announced he was going to marry her after he got into fight with Jess for Rory. I think that was no concidence. I think Lindsay had a fight with him, wanted to break up telling him he's still in love with Rory and to convince her she was wrong, he proposed.

Ok, that would be an interesting plot point, but i'm sure you just created it! Lindsay had issues with Rory, that's for sure, as we saw in the "Poe" episode, but the writers never suggested there was some kind of ultimatum involved with Dean and Lindsay's engagement. I also don't recall any explanation of Lindsay's reaction to the Dean/Jess fight. We don't know how Dean explained the fight to her, do we? Perhaps he just tried saying that Jess is a jerk. Although Jess didn't show up at school often he probably had a reputation at the school, as he did around town, so if Dean tried to brush it off as that Lindsay might have believed the lie. These are holes that ASP never filled in. Maybe she didn't feel it was worth the bother, or she wanted to leave Dean's motives vague.

[SIDNEY]

Ok, that would be an interesting plot point, but i'm sure you just created it! Lindsay had issues with Rory, that's for sure, as we saw in the "Poe" episode, but the writers never suggested there was some kind of ultimatum involved with Dean and Lindsay's engagement. I also don't recall any explanation of Lindsay's reaction to the Dean/Jess fight. We don't know how Dean explained the fight to her, do we? Perhaps he just tried saying that Jess is a jerk. Although Jess didn't show up at school often he probably had a reputation at the school, as he did around town, so if Dean tried to brush it off as that Lindsay might have believed the lie. These are holes that ASP never filled in. Maybe she didn't feel it was worth the bother, or she wanted to leave Dean's motives vague.

Yeah, it's just a theory. But i rewatched the episode and when Rory went upstairs to look for Jess, Dean was standing at the stairs with Lindsay. Rory didn't take long to get downstrairs and Dean was still there so what i'm saying there is a chance Lindsay was standing there still. Besides i don't think she is naive not to figure out the fight was about Rory. Actually no one is that naive. I loooove when Lorelai knew that Rory went to a cop-raided party and started the raid, then sings " The Wind Beneath My Wings". Wow! That's all i have to say; wow!! 

[LoveMe011]

i made a weird observation when i watched this episode last night.

this is the episode where jess finally OFFICIALLY comes into the picture. and when kirk wins the dance marathon, he jogs around the gym to the "rocky" theme. the actor who plays jess, milo ventimiglia, would later star in the movie rocky balboa.

yea, i need to get a life. but i thought that was pretty cool, though.

[bingbong]

this is the episode where jess finally OFFICIALLY comes into the picture. and when kirk wins the dance marathon, he jogs around the gym to the "rocky" theme. the actor who plays jess, milo ventimiglia, would later star in the movie rocky balboa.

So should we deduct that Jess was more attracted to Kirk than Rory?    Personally, i'll take Shane.

I thought Kirk's victory lap was waaaaaay better than Rocky's!   

[gilmoregirlfreak]

Why didnt lorelai just dance with kirk to win ? 

idk if it was cause lor turned him down on a date,they just wanted to beat each other,or there 2 stubborn

[monsoon]

Hi, maybe this has been asked before, I didn't browse thru all the ten pages:

 What does the title of this episode mean?



Thanks
-Varsha

[Seni]

I think it is a reference to the book/movie "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" and it's mainly about a dance marathon during the Great Depression. I think. 

[monsoon]

I think it is a reference to the book/movie "They Shoot Horses, Don't They?" and it's mainly about a dance marathon during the Great Depression. I think. 

Wow, "You have much knowledge"!

 I looked it up on wikipedia, it is a 1935 book about people competing in dance marathons.

Thanks, Seni.

-Varsha

[Seni]

  no problem. anytime.

[bingbong]

The movie version of "They Shoot Horses, Don't They" came out in the early '70s and is really sad but really good.
There are characters in it who are even more pathetic (and not funny) than Kirk. 

[starshells]

This was a great episode... altough I was sad that Rory was sad about Dean, I'm glad because Rory + Jess= ♥♥♥♥

[monsoon]

I just re-watched this episode today... I realized it contains one of the scenes that's going into my "ten best closing scenes" list...

Isn't the closing scene of Kirk's victory lap to the Rocky theme, with Lorelai and Rory standing in the middle just awesome? Something about it...I just keep re-winding it and watching it again.