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2626  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 26, 2007, 05:45:01 pm
If Rory would have said yes, they would have broken up.  I guarantee it.  Or Rory would not have been happy.  She has always strove for the top.  And she's reached that point.  She can take over the world, if she wanted to.  Logan's proposal offered a wonderful life, there is no doubt of that.  But I'm personally glad that Rory Gilmore did NOT give up her dreams for any guy.  If he truly loves her, he would understand.  And he would wait.  Plain and simple.

I think I am one of the few who doesn't put Rory on a pedestal. Snarkastic me if you must, but I see a LOT of people saying how Rory is amazing, she can do this, she can do that. She is SUPERWOMAN! (OKay, I'm exaggerating.) She couldn't even stay in Yale when times got too hard, what happens when something hits her hard in the real world? Go back home to Stars Hollow and mope for a few months and THEN try again to achieve her dreams? Granted, she did make up for her mistakes. Sure, she would have had a good career, but that doesn't mean great-competition is probably huuuuge in that industry, honestly, I don't really know.

I for one totally agree that Rory would not have been satisfied in the long run settling with Logan. Lorelai told Rory she made the right decision in turning him down and mom knows best. A true Gilmore Girl can stand on her own; it's nice to have a guy by your side, but not necessary, and only on equal terms.

I also agree with the point about Rory falling apart at Yale when times got hard. In the early episodes, when she was at Chilton, she more than held her own against Paris and the other snobby girls. When she graduated from Chilton i recall the headmaster making a point of saying she was forceful when necessary. Yet, when Logan's father tells her "you don't have what it takes" she falls apart and drops out of Yale! What happened to her backbone? I think Rory was always the classic over-acheiver who was not accustomed to struggling at anything (thanks to her intelligence and hard work) and just couldn't take it when the going got tough. But at least she did eventually bounce back and since then has re-gained her backbone, like a true GG.


2627  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 26, 2007, 05:20:50 pm
Definitely, plus if it ended like that, no one would say there were any unresolved storylines.  Peter blowing up of course also takes out Hartford, thus eliminating the Gilmores there. And Luke and Lorelai were in the diner, which Peter was standing in front of when he blew so they were some of the first to go.   Grin


Honor borrowed a friend's helicopter (borrowing helicopters to reach loved ones is a shared family trait, just like blond hair and an aversion to family get togethers) and swooped in and saved Logan. Then she took away all his liquor and said she'd kick his butt (censored for the kiddies) six ways to Sunday if he let this destroy his life. And, she was so incredibly scary that Logan was too intimidated not to listen to her.

I think you two wonderful peeps have taken my little idea and brought it to its, uh, ah, logical conclusion.

Only person you forgot is Mrs. Kim. She was mysteriously absent from the big party in the final episode. I've wondered about that and now realize she was traveling in Korea and thus would not be in Connecticut when everyone gets blown up. Thus, Mrs. Kim is now available for her own new show. I see it as something along the lines of a Rachel Ray thing, except there will not be any "tips" and "how-tos", but rather tyrannical commands by which we will all obey. Ah, dear ol' Mrs. Kim.

We also might consider exempting Kirk and LuLu from extinction. They would make an excellent Adam & Eve in re-starting life in a new Star's Hollow. It's got the makings of a reality show.

2628  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 26, 2007, 12:35:52 pm
I have it on good authority that Jess was visiting his father in CA.

As for Logan's adorable sister, she attempted to fly out and help her dear brother but got stuck at the airport in holiday weekend traffic. And the family Cessna is being repaired. And the family yacht was stolen a while back by Rory. And she is certainly not about to hang-glide 3,000 miles just to save her brother. So, she went to Happy Hour at the local Hilton and drank one toast to Paris Hilton and her upcoming prison sentence and another toast to her departed brother and his ill-fitting suit. Oh, and did i mention that Logan's death means more inheritance money for the adorable sister??? Funny how these things work out.

2629  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 26, 2007, 12:23:33 pm
Sorry to rain on your parade, but after his last run in with a cliff, Logan doesn't go near them without properly checked hang gliding equipment. So, he might have gotten knocked over, but he glided to a gentle stop.

Oh no no no... I forgot the detail that Logan was DRUNK (desperately trying to get over Rory) and forgot all precautions.

I also heard that Jess was walking by at the bottom of the cliff and had the opportunity to catch Logan. He opted not to catch him and strolled merrily by. I think he was whistling "Suffragette City" as he strolled.

Logan will be buried in the same ill-fitting suit he wore when Rory dumped his sorry butt.

2630  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 26, 2007, 12:09:41 pm
woah.. thanks for putting it into perspective... that means that maybe in a few years if he isn't already married (which i doubt he will be cuz I'm sure he'll wait for her) then they can think about settling down... i can't wait for the movie!

Oy with Logan already!   Wink

Why should Logan be the one for Rory?  Let Rory run around and get her career in order and the love life will take care of itself. There are plenty of guys out there. Logan turned into a good boyfriend but not someone to settle down with for a lifetime.

I have inside information - inside my head, that is - that Logan just arrived at his new house in California. He was planting an avocado tree in honor of Rory and fell off a cliff and landed BOINK on his head.

So, you see, that's the end of Logan. Ain't comin' back.

2631  Gilmore Girls / Show and Cast Member News / Re: Ask Ausiello: Gilmore Girls Reunion Movie - 05.23.07 on: May 26, 2007, 10:19:55 am
I'm such a happy ending kinda person that i would love to see it end with a wedding but lauren herself already said she'd hate to see it end with a wedding... which makes me wonder where ASP would go with it, cuz i know she'd want that void filled for us but at the same time, it was a show that was started on mother-daughter relationships.

I am also a lover of happy endings but i don't think that a wedding is necessarily the way to achieve it for Luke & Lorelai. If anything, L&L's disastrous engagement in season 6 seemed to suggest that they should not get married (which, i will add, seemed to be a betrayal of everything that came prior). I personally know couples in long-time relationships who are perfectly happy but never bothered getting hitched. I am by no means anti-marriage, but L&L in the finale seemed to reunite in a way that said "i'll be there for you" more than "you're my soul mate".

Also, there have been plenty of big-hype weddings in television history and i think Lauren Graham was suggesting we don't need another.

I would love a movie in theory, but in reality i think it would be a disappointment. And, having said that, i would love to watch it anyway because there is no such thing as too much Gilmore Girls!
2632  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 02:03:10 pm
I agree that Rory did not need Logan to give her anything, and did not need anyone (other than her mom, i guess) to give her anything.

I'm thinking of the original premise of the show. Lorelai was born into the lap of luxary & even after having a child at 16, she still could have had everything handed to her. Instead, she went off on her own and created a life of her own on her terms. I like the idea of Rory doing the same thing.
2633  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 01:16:55 pm
Rory's original dream, beyond Harvard, was to be a "foreign correspondent". So, that meant both traveling the world and being a journalist.

What i did not like about Logan's plan was that it was mostly PRE-ARRANGED BY HIM. He had it all laid out and Rory was just supposed to step into it. Sounds like something Emily would do!  I much prefer the idea of Rory going on the campain trail, which is an adventure and within her chosen profession. I can imagine her meeting a new guy along the way, who is also a journalist and much more down-to-earth than Logan.

Logan is a swarmy spoiled weeny butt. Good riddance to him.

2634  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 11:40:48 am
Whatever the final 4 words really are, it will likely be a let-down if they are revealed. I say that because there is so much hype about it, and big hypes rarely live up to expectations. And i would prefer something goofy like "I need more coffee" rather than "It's the Gilmore way".

2635  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 10:50:39 am
you really should read the interview on tv guide ausiello report between ausiello and the palladinos and this should change your opinion on season 6 cuz even though it was little far out in left field... if you think about it... rory losing her virginity to her ex who was married was way out in left field too...

i'll try and find that website but its a tv guide interview

What bothered me most about season 6 was Lorelai betraying her real character, the way she passively allowed Luke to "compartmentalize" his relationship with April, and quietly sulked for so many episodes. A lot of GG fans were very upset by that. At least during season 7 she was more her true self overall. And when she & Luke reunited in the finale it felt like they were on equal terms again.
2636  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 10:30:34 am
everyone is entitled to their own opinion but i'm on board with the rest of the true GG fans who are dying for the last 4 ASP words!!!

I give ASP all the credit in the world for creating this amazing show. But i think she lost interest in season 6 and really screwed things up (giving Luke a kid, ruining the L&L engagement, Lorelai sleeping with Chris, etc).

So, if there is not a tv-movie, does that mean ASP will never reveal the last 4 words? She'll take it to her grave?

2637  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 25, 2007, 09:10:20 am
I have no complaints with the final episode. They finally got the thing right after a very inconsistent season 7, which followed an even more inconsistent season 6. It was funny, sad, touching, all the things that make GG so unique. I personally never liked Logan and had no problems with him getting the boot in the previous episode, although it was handled very awkwardly. Why on earth would Rory give up her own dream to live in someone else's shadow? That is not what a true Gilmore Girl would do. She needs to find her own way on her own terms. Beside, i always thought Logan was too upper class weeny. Jess and Dean were much cooler by comparison, but i don't agree with anyone who thinks those characters should have come back. They had their day and it passed.

As for L&L, if they were ever going to get married it should have happened LAST season; but instead their engagement was a disaster. How many times can you go back to the same watering hole? But i did think the way they reunited in the final episode was nicely done.

AS-P could not have done this final episode any better than the new team did. Just remember that AS-P completely botched season 6.
2638  Gilmore Girls / Show and Cast Member News / Re: Ask Ausiello: Gilmore Girls Reunion Movie - 05.23.07 on: May 25, 2007, 08:56:46 am
I have mixed feelings about a movie. I would definitely watch it, but what is really the point? How many loose threads are there? The series finale was beautifully done i thought and left our Girls in a good place. What would be the big whoop about seeing Rory go off on a campaign trail or seeing Luke & Lorelai pursuing their latest fling? And wasn't Amy the one who ditched the show after her dismal season 6? I can understand if Alexis is not totally enthused.

But of course for all my doubts i would be glued to the television if it ever really happened.

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