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1  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 16, 2007, 09:52:56 am
ADDITION: HEHEHE We used to say,

GIRL ONE: "I wouldn't kick him outta bed..."
GIRL TWO: "Not for eatin' crackers..."

Ok, here is what we meant - i ask the UK people, etc. - is this the meaning?  Crackers in bed makes terrible crumbs and any average man would be booted out of bed for messing it up with crackers.. But Scott would get a pass - he could leave the crumbs, it would be "OK" Is that the interpretation, or is there some other "hidden" meaning?  (Often the translations between UK and US gets lost - but anyway, that is how it was explained to me when i was a wee child... Anyone?

Zeddie - My grandma was a very Amerian midwest matron type.  Don't now about the English, But the only meaning I ever heard was the guy would have to be really worth putting up with the discomfort of itchy cracker crumbs.
2  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.22 - Bon Voyage on: May 16, 2007, 08:42:59 am
Except, I'll pass Logan over some of his more adoring fans and take Scott Patterson in a flannel shirt and backwards baseball cap any day of the week.   Wink

lovelylaura.  I'm completely in agreement with you.  My very staid, teatotally grandma had one very funny, out of character thing she used to do.  Whenever she would see a goodlooking man (Inglebert Humperdink was her favorite), she would say "He can eat crackers in my bed anytime." 

Scott, I've got a whole box of saltines just waiting for you! Smiley

Anyway, the things that have been bugging me all season bugged me again tonight.  Everything felt rushed.  At the very least this show deserved a 2 hour season finale.  When Caesar was talking abou taking over, that was the perfect opening for Luke and Lorelai to head out on the boat trip. 

I still feel like Rory (Alexis) just isn't warm enough.  If I was having the kind of a talk with a best friend that she was having with Lane, there would have been a big hug. 

In the end this definitely didn't work as a series finale.  You want Lorelai and Michel to have something, and Lorelai and Sookie. 

I did love Emily trying to figure out how she could keep Lorelai tied to her.  That was great that Lorelai didn't make her beg.

I started crying at Friday night dinner.  Emily and Richard were stunned and sad when they realized that Rory was leaving.  Once again Lorelai read it right an immediately said after dinner drinks.  You could see Richard (Edward) getting misty eyed.

I wanted more Luke and Lorelai.  Some dialogue ... "I don't want us to be just friends" or "I don't want to be over you." or something!!!!   It was true to form in that Luke did come through again, as he has time after time.

Sorry, I'm not really tying any thoughts together.  The more I sit here and think about it, the less satisfied I am with the ending.

I'm going to miss this show. 
3  Episode Discussion / Season 1 / Re: 1.07 - Kiss and Tell on: May 15, 2007, 11:01:28 am
    To me, the funniest part of this episode was at the beginning when Lorelai and Rory were trying to get a distracted Luke to serve them coffee.   He was having a back and forth with Taylor, while Lorelai and Rory threw out smart alec comments to get them noticed.  At one point Rory says, "My mom's not wearing any underwear", but Luke doesn't seem to hear.   Then after Rory and Lorelai serve themselves, they get ready to walk out... 
Luke:  What, no tip?
Lorelai:  Here's a tip:  serve your customers!
Luke:  Here's a tip for you- (pause) - don't sit on any cold park benches. 

hahaha!  His deadpan delivery was so funny because he was pretending he hadn't heard the part about Lorelai not wearing underwear, but then there it was.

This was the genius of this show.  Deadpan delivery, wit, speed.  Where else will get this?!!  Cry
4  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.21 - Unto the Breach on: May 14, 2007, 10:06:28 am
Neverapuff, I completely agree with you about Rory's feeling for her friends.  I honestly think that some of it is Alexis' acting abiblity.  I"m not trying to be mean here but I've always noticed that when she hugs someone, she always avoids getting her face too close to the other persons and kind of holds her body stiff (except for Jess and Logan.  It doesnt' sound like much when you describe it, but it was definitely an awkward posture whenever she hugs, Emily or Richard or Luke or any of the Stars Hollow Characters (Sookie, Patty, Babette), school friends.

Anyway maybe it was only part real discomfort and part her character.  Maybe she is supposed to be a little aloof from everyone but Lorelai.  Maybe the single self-sufficient mother makes the kids feel less need for outside love, validation, interaction?  Or maybe I'm full of it.  Anyway I still really think that Rory did not give Paris the send off you'd give a stray dog!
5  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.21 - Unto the Breach on: May 09, 2007, 11:59:35 am
I did my main rant back on page 7, but I keep thinking of more little things to rant about. This seems likely to be the last episode featuring Logan, Christopher and Paris, and I think Paris was the only one who got at least an attempt at some kind of farewell.

Why did Paris say "You're going to do  great things with your life, Rory Gilmore," throw her arms around her close friend and roommate of all these years... and Rory just acts surprised "Whaaaaatttt?"  Didin't we already go through Paris having her first sign of big emotion, say, fifty times already? Why would Rory be so surprised, and not hug her back? And how rude to not say anything back to her, at least a "You, too, Paris."

Now if Emily reached out and hugged Lorelai like that, then I could accept a full-on cartoon-jaw-on-the-ground-eyes-out-aaaaooogaa! reaction from anyone, especially me.

Rhiannaon - cool name.  I haven't done a full blown analysis yet.  I might not, its more fun to reply to specific comments from other posters.  Plus everyone has already said most of what I was thinking.  However, I really do want to reply to you, because I agree about the Paris goodbye.  Rory should have offered more than "oomph."  Bad writing.  I have always loved Paris' character and I was sorry to see her get short schrift.

A big hug between Lorelai and Emily would make me very happy.  Although it would be a little hard to believe.  Maybe an arm squeeze. Smiley
6  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.21 - Unto the Breach on: May 09, 2007, 10:49:13 am
laurla205 and Zeddie, I completely agree with you guys.  There has been no indication from Logan that being his wife means Rory can't have her career too.  In the meantime, she has someone that completely believes in her will support her emotionally and btw is, apparently, great in bed!

I won't repeat what both of you have said except to say that I don't believe anyone can have it all and do it all right all at the same time.  But marriage and career - which technically Rory, doesn't even have yet, can definitely be done without either one suffering.  Throwing in motherhood gets a little dicey (take it from someone who knows), but Rory isn't even close to that yet.

I did feel very sorry for Logan and I don't even particularly like him.
7  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.21 - Unto the Breach on: May 09, 2007, 09:56:18 am
Um, call me a tap dancing chicken (calling someone crazy is so last year) but I didn't think ratings had anything to do with whether or not the show had an 8th season. 

In my humble opinion, if the show still had its ratings of yesteryear the network could afford to offer the Girls even more money.  The network would be happy, advertisers would be happy, and who knows ... maybe the girls could have managed their grueling schedule for 13 more episodes had they been offered XX more money. 

Say what you want about scheduling conflicts, being tired, etc.  Higher ratings = more money.  More money gives you huge leeway do to what you want.


Heidi, maybe it's cynical, but I have to agree with you.  This show has made millionaires of more than one person.  I really feel like it's a little, disingenuous to talk about the hard schedule.  Yes they work 6 days for each episode.  That's 132 days a year for 14-16 hrs a day, that's 2112 hours a year.  My husband has a very good white collar job.  He works 260 days a year for at least 10-12 hours a day, that's 3120 hours a year.  It seems like the other 233 days a year would be enough to get your battery recharged.

I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to say that maybe Lauren and Alexis and whoever else, should just say,  "We're done.  This story has played itself out and we're all looking forward to moving onto to new equally as challenging and enjoyable opportunities."

I know they are artists and probably feel like they've done all they can do with the characters.  Honestly I really do think that there isn't much more to explore so it's probably time for the series to end. 

Anyway I will miss the show.  I can't think of any show that kept me entertained just waiting for next line of dialogue for its own sake, not because it was going to further the story, but because it was going to have some hilarious cultural reference or off the wall phrase "monkey monkey underpants." 
8  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.20 - Lorelai? Lorelai? on: May 02, 2007, 11:06:59 am
This really is my last thought today. (I keep saying that). 

I guess an episode can't have everything.  I was disappointed in Richard and Emily.  Their reaction to Rory not getting the fellowship seemed a little bland.  Also, Kelly Bishop didn't look good, kind of puffy or something.  The catty side of me went "Yearh Richard you may have lost 11 pounds, Emily found it."
9  Gilmore Girls / Spoilers / Re: Discussion of Spoilers on: May 02, 2007, 10:53:04 am
I think public proposals should only be done when you know the recipient is in to attention and public surprises. 

I totally agree.  Why would you set yourself up for potential embarrassment, not to mention heartache in public.

Maybe Logan thinks the force of his personality will just make Rory say yes.
10  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.20 - Lorelai? Lorelai? on: May 02, 2007, 10:36:55 am
This thread is growing like mad.  When I got on at 6:45 a edt, it was already 6 pages.  Fun to see how everyone was so affected by this episode.

I have just one other thing to say.  When Miss Patty put her hand over her heart at the end of Lorelai's song, that said it all.
11  Gilmore Girls / Cast and Characters / Re: Babbette or Miss Patty on: May 02, 2007, 10:28:17 am
Babette and Patty are so different yet they click so perfect together.  I think Miss Patty is the biggest gossip.  She is so sly and quite about it.  Babette just throws it al out there for anyone and everyone. 

Special appriciation has to go to Liz Torres for her singing.  She's got a really cool voice, not much stronger it seems since she's lost weight.
12  Gilmore Girls / Relationship Threads / Re: Java Junkies (Luke and Lorelai) - 'Cause we all love the chick beer! on: May 02, 2007, 10:21:31 am
I loved when Lorelai was noticing Luke's hat. She kept making that quizzical, "is that the hat I gave him."  Then when he notices her looking at him, it was like he was daring her (or hoping) to ask him about it.  Maybe he wanted to say "yes its the hat you gave me."  Anyway, I really liked the look on Lauren's face.  It was very cute.  She was really looking over that hat very carefully.
13  Gilmore Girls / Relationship Threads / Re: Foodies Thread - Sookie & Jackson Appreciation on: May 02, 2007, 10:12:40 am
I'd like Hollywood to promise me that if indeed this is the last season of Gilmore Girls, some wise, woman-loving power that be will snatch up Melissa McCarthy and put her in something worthy of her comedic talents. And please, just because she's on the pillowy side doesn't mean she has to be a cook or a best friend.

The above came from an article that conradv posted.  This is so true Melissa is a great.
14  Gilmore Girls / Spoilers / Re: Discussion of Spoilers on: May 02, 2007, 09:46:24 am

And, just a quick skim through the episode thread, and the question of whether Christopher's appearance next week will cause ranting?  YES, YES, you'd have to be a blind, deaf, brain dead amoeba to miss it, oh my goodness, YES it will because yes it has.  Of course, Christopher not showing up would prove how bad a dad he is.  Hey, maybe Christopher will show up and then spontaneously combust.  Thus not being a horrible dad and being gracious enough to remove himself from the show.  Oh, but no, because if he goes up in flames people will have to pay attention and then it will be all about him.

Dani257, you crack me up.  We definitely don't want it to be about Chris in any way shape or form, unless its about Lorelai saying again, what a huge mistake it was to sleep with him, marry him, be involved with him in way other than as the other parent of her kid.  Then also comparing him unfavorably, in every, way to Luke. Cheesy

7.21 ep. description from KTLA:

Tuesday, May 8 at 8/7c
"Unto The Breach"
On the eve of Rory's graduation, Emily and Richard throw her a party and perform a song in her honor. At the party, Lorelai and Christopher are reunited for the first time since their separation, and both are relieved to find they can still be friends.

Logan surprises everyone at the party by proposing to Rory, but she is too shocked to give him an answer and begs Lorelai to help her decide what to do.

On graduation day, Rory and Paris receive their diplomas, and Rory finally gives Logan her answer. What do you think she'll say? Meanwhile, Lorelai is embarrassed about her karaoke serenade to Luke the night before, and Luke is hurt when he overhears her saying it didn't mean anything.    If this true then they better fix it up in the same episode.  I'm getting tired of having my heart strings yanked around.
15  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.20 - Lorelai? Lorelai? on: May 02, 2007, 09:35:19 am
I've been thinking a lot about the song, and when you think about it, it's not a standard love song, it's a goodbye song, and even though I definitely think it changed when Luke walked in, I wonder how he interpreted it.  Did he latch onto just the "I will always love" you, or did he also hear the lines that speak of bittersweet memories and the part that says "We both know I'm not what you need"?  Because those lines sound like someone who wants to be with a person, but knows that wouldn't be the best thing, so I'm trying to figure out how much of the lyrics we're supposed to read into the situation. 


I've been thinking about how Lorelai reacted when Luke came in.  It seems like she was feeling uncomfortable because she was in the part of the song that talks about letting go - which of course was appropriate for Rory, but not for Luke.  It seemed like she was stumbling around trying to get out of that part of the song and kind of mumbling a little bit.  Then when she got to the wish you joy, happiness and love she was "all in."  (I love that phrase! Cheesy)
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