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Episode Discussion => Season 3 => Topic started by: TheHumanCoffeePot on October 17, 2005, 01:06:02 pm
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Summary: As Rory's (Alexis Bledel) graduation day approaches, the Gilmore girls plan their long-awaited summer backpacking trip across Europe, even as Lorelai (Lauren Graham) faces the possibility that the recent fire will force the owners of the Independence Inn to sell the building. Rory takes matters into her own hands when she discovers that Lorelai is making a great personal sacrifice to pay for the Yale tuition. Richard (Edward Herrmann) and Emily (Kelly Bishop) present Rory with a lavish graduation gift, and everyone is touched by Rory's moving valedictory speech. Meanwhile, Luke (Scott Patterson) has second thoughts about a summer cruise with his new girlfriend.
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paris: you, whats your name, whats your story?
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I'm glad Jess returned in later seasons because this just seemed such a terrible way for him to leave, they both loved each other but it just couldn't work.
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The best part of this chapter was Lorelai sayin "Dont get engaged" to Luke...
And she considered it as a step..
Tha was the flame!
One of my fav. chapters ever!
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This was the season fannaly to the third season I think and this one made you laugh and cry and everthing in between. Because Rory's speach made me cry and then the part when brad sung a song in stead of reading his poem made you think what was better the poem or the song
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I think and this one made you laugh and cry and everthing in between
yep,agreed.
Rory's speach (sp?) made me cry...
one of the best episodes so far... !
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Luke's hair in this episode amused me....it's so short! :D Though I much perfer it to the whole let's put a wig on him thing :-\.
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Luke's hair in this episode amused me....it's so short! :D
That amazed me to but I like it that short.!
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I have a question about this episode. When Lorelai said "Don't get engaged" to Luke, was that a dream Luke was having or did it really happen? That confused me.
Thanks!
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I have a question about this episode. When Lorelai said "Don't get engaged" to Luke, was that a dream Luke was having or did it really happen? That confused me. Thanks!
I thought it was a dream.
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I have a question about this episode. When Lorelai said "Don't get engaged" to Luke, was that a dream Luke was having or did it really happen? That confused me. Thanks!
I thought it was a dream.
It was is was when he was up in his apartment he had fallen alsleep. So yeah it was a dream or at least thats what it looked like to me.
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I have a question about this episode. When Lorelai said "Don't get engaged" to Luke, was that a dream Luke was having or did it really happen? That confused me. Thanks!
I thought it was a dream.
It was is was when he was up in his apartment he had fallen alsleep. So yeah it was a dream or at least thats what it looked like to me.
Thanks for your replies ladies!
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I~LUV~LUKE are you the oldie ILUVELUKE ?
Here you guys might like these caps I just made (cause the caps site's tend to not have them...I have no idea why not):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/White_Onyx/Screencaps/322cap1.jpg) (Lorelai telling Luke to commit to Nichole)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/White_Onyx/Screencaps/322cap2.jpg) (Luke's reaction to that)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/White_Onyx/Screencaps/322cap4.jpg) (Lorelai pretending to feel good about it)
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(Luke's dream)
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Man did I look a long time for these caps....and gave up the search tonight. When you want something done right ya gotta do it yourself I guess. ;) ;D I hope you guys like them.
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oh i love them! this is one of my favorite episodes... i love how its written when Rory and Lorelai are leaving chilton. "wait""what" "look around.."...."its not so scary anymore now is it?" "..nope"
i am just absolutly inlove with that scene! its perfect! and its so funny before that when she's trying to leave their mark but everything was given to them by some guy or is 5000million years old (a little exagerated)
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Rory's speach (sp?) made me cry...
Yeah, me too. I loved the bit where the camera goes back and forth between Rory and the others trying to fight the tears. It's so funny how they point out who's blubbering and especially Luke's response. He's just so funny.
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yea, even luke had to hold back his tears. rory had such a good speach! it was funny how like everyone got a car as a graduation gift! rory has so many people who care about her, its great.
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I love this episode. Brad's speech was hallirous. I cant believe I cried during Rorys speech. I loved her speech i replayed the scene over and over on dvd. I cried everytime and was really touched. I loved it. :'(
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The same thought comes into my head about this episode. Paris should have been valedictorian. There is no way that Rory had a higher grade point average. Paris never got less than an A- in her life. Rory got a D on her first paper at Chilton. Even if she got straight A's forever after, that still wouldn't beat Paris.
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Oh my god this episode is horrible for people like me who have feelings. This episode got me close to crying ( a grown man of 23 ;) )
I watched it for the first time today ...and it is one of the best I ´ve seen so far ( I started watching from season 4 onwards )
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Awwwww one of the greatest episodes so far.... The scene in the end, where lorelai and rory were in the schoool... so funny xD
But I didn´t cry cause of her speech, but of Jess :'( ´hes so sweet.... hope he´ll come back soon^^
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rory's valedictorian speech= amazing!! it gave me shivers it was so sweet!!
rory's speech to jess= brought a tear to my eye... she just told him straight up, too bad she hung up on him too quickly so he couldnt reply but you can see the hurt in his eyes when he goes to hang up the phone.. he just places the phone on his heart... omg i cant even go on it was the sadest thing ever!
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Yeah Rory's speech totally made me bawl! Especially the part about Lorelai...Rory gets choked up and Lor and Sookie are just bawling their eyes out both saying "not crying....not crying". I'm glad they left Emily out of this scene because I'm sure she was scowling at Lor or looking stonefaced. I can't stand Emily. She HATES how close Rory is to Lor. You can just tell and she loves to hold things over Lor's head.
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ugh these last few episodes really depressed me but still some real funny parts! i love kirks suggestion of the controlled wolves hunt. hes my favorite!
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they depressed me too.. i cant even watch the second or third season episodes anymore.. i get so mad. and when i see fanart of them together i just get sad..
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i luved when luke dreamed that lorelai told him not to leave for the cruise. i was really sad when jess called rory adn he ws just standing there listening to her say that she thinks she may have loved him...
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this is the only episode that made me cry (last episode when logan left was pretty close). during rory's speech i was crying and laughing cause of sookie and lorelai telling each other not to cry and also because i find luke crying hilarious. another tear jerker is when rory is talking to jess on the phone. i thought my heart was being ripped out. i had this dull ache in my heart for weeks.(Yes, I used to be a Jess fan). BUT not anymore. This is the episode that made me hate Jess. I don't care about being soulmates and book bonding and how the whole bad boy thing is so hot. He just got up and left, didn't say anything and didn't even say goodbye on the phone. Iloved himso much and rory gave up Dean to be with him and he threw it away. He really loved her so why did he do that. He's crazy and I'Ve totally crossed him out.
The last scene as lorelai and rory leave chilton is the most amazing gilmore season finale ever. Especially as the famaous la-la-la music plays (doesn't GG have the most amazing musical entrails)
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This is my favorite episode. It was funny when Luke was crying what his reaction was. It was funny when Brad was singing during his speech. I liked Rory's valevictorian speech. I likied it a lot. It was great in the beginning of the episode that Rory asked her Grandparents for money for Yale. I couldn't believe that the Independence INN was closing.
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Loved this ep also, the part when Rory got her certificate and looked at her family members with the funny place was awesome i wish i did that.
Also loved the dream that Luke had with Lorelai. That was a classic!!
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Great episode.
Rory's graduation speech was sOo great. made me cry :]
i loved how Sookie had to keep getting up and scooting through everyone. HA.
Paris was pretty funny at the graduation. She wanted to use "air quotes" && she didnt recognize anyone. Oh..and then the "No hard feelings." remark to Headmaster Charleston. hillarious.
I loved that Lorelai got her Inn in this episode. It was really great for Rory to do that for her. But..It was also really great of Lorelai to be willing to give that up, just so that Rory can go to Yale.
I thought it was sOo great when Paris and Rory were saying good-bye.
Rory:: You know..I really did hate you most of the time.
Paris:: Yeah..I really hated you too.
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FAVORITE episode. Most definatley of the first three seasons. I loved how Luke cried at Rory's graduation, it showed that he wasn't the "heartless", for lack of a better word, man that he could seem to be. And how is it, that I was 'watering' at Rory's valedictorican speech? I guess I wasn't the only one.
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The same thought comes into my head about this episode. Paris should have been valedictorian. There is no way that Rory had a higher grade point average. Paris never got less than an A- in her life. Rory got a D on her first paper at Chilton. Even if she got straight A's forever after, that still wouldn't beat Paris.
At some schools (like mine) people apply for being valadictorian (sp?) I kno that rory didnt apply b/c in the eppisode b4 this one she said that she didnt want to write another speech but maybe people voted for her anyway or something even if she didnt apply
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Which would be a good explanation if they showed that valedictorianship (is that a word?) was a thing done by nomination. Show a scene where some teacher or someone says that time is running out to vote for valedictorian, or something, so we'd know it was a popularity contest. (Anything with highschool kids voting -heck, probably adults voting- is a popularity contest in some measure) That kids would like Paris less, and not give her enough votes? I can buy that. But, not sight unseen. Without some actual indication as why, it just comes across (to me, anyway) that Rory is the lead character, and must be the best.
Someone here (sorry, forgot who) posted that maybe Paris' time staying home after her Harvard meltdown screwed up her GPA. I can sort of see that, and she did miss some time off school.
But, I'm still flying the Paris as Valedictorian flag, because ASP didn't have to write Paris behaving that way. She could have been accepted at Harvard, and kept going to school. Or, she could have been rejected, kept attending classes, and just been meaner than usual. I'm sure even without Rory making a speech in front of everyone, they could have written a touching scene where Rory thanks Lorelai and her grandparents, only more private
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Okay, I have looked everywhere and can't find any episode scripts. I don't have the DVDs, but it was on ABC Family today and I am not sure but I thought that when they called Rory on stage to receive her diploma they said something other than "Rory Gilmore." Anybody know? It's going to make me crazy if I don't figure it out. :P
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Transcripts can be found here: http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/gilmoregirls/
And, they called her by her full name:
ANNOUNCER: Lorelai Leigh Gilmore.
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Today I just watch this episode on abc family. I think this episode will make you laugh like always, and cry like some. I love Rory's speach and all the little quotes.
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Today I just watch this episode on abc family. I think this episode will make you laugh like always, and cry like some. I love Rory's speach and all the little quotes.
Pairs: Hey you, whats your story?
(when Brad sings his song)Rory:Oh Brad!
Lorelai: Even Cold Stone Luke.
Rory: Oh Luke you big softy.
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MICHEL: I need more mental stimulation.
SOOKIE: I need to frickin' fry a dead animal in a skillet. I'm going nuts.
MICHEL: I should've been a dancer.
SOOKIE: What?
MICHEL: My mother put me in dance school and I rebelled, I wanted to kick the football. I should not have.
SOOKIE: I've seen you dance and you jump around like a duck.
MICHEL: You know, I'm getting mighty sick of you.
SOOKIE: Not as sick as I am of you.
MICHEL: You know what, you do his towels. I'm not doing his towels anymore.
SOOKIE: I'm not doing his stupid towels. I hate that stupid guy with his stupid newspaper. He's stupid.
[Lorelai walks over]
LORELAI: Yo, guys, no bickering in front of the guest.
SOOKIE: Tell it to Deney Terrio here. (Dodgy French Accent) "I should've been a dancer"
Need I say more? That was classic!
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I love this episode. It cracks me up so much when that kid starts singing Cherish by The Association. :)
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This is the only season finale that didn't really have a ciffhanger. I mean, Jess left and Luke was going on a cruise, but nothing was really hanging over our heads. I don't think I was watching the show yet when this episode was new, did anyone else feel differently?
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this ep was good, but like dani257 said, the rory being valedictorian was kind of just like Oh since shes the lead she gets valedictorian. Also like this might not be for chilton, but arent you not supposed to make the whole speech about yourself? it was beautiful and i almost cried, but shouldnt you give credit to the school for SOMETHING?
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this ep was good, but like dani257 said, the rory being valedictorian was kind of just like Oh since shes the lead she gets valedictorian. Also like this might not be for chilton, but arent you not supposed to make the whole speech about yourself? it was beautiful and i almost cried, but shouldnt you give credit to the school for SOMETHING?
i agree with you there. she should have said something about the school.
this episode is great. it made me laugh (michel/sookie moment QweenB posted), made me cry (rory's speech), and made me mad (jess calling rory and not saying anything)
this is definitely one of my favorite episodes everr.
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when i first watched the scene with rory and jess on tha phone i cried i wos so sad and seeing him after she hung up i felt so sorry 4 jess cos he loves her!
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Awe. This one is in my top five favorite eposides.
I actually cried in Rory's speech. I thought that she did a great job. This was a really nice eposide. I do think that Chris should have been there for his dughter's graduation. He should have at least given her a phone call telling her congrads or something. I also would have liked to see Paris succede. I would have liked to see her be salutetorian or even valedvictorian. I know that she probably mess up her GPA when she took time off of school when she had her Harvard rejection meltdown, but for once I would like to see Paris come out over Rory for something. But all in all this was a nice season finale and I really enjoyed it, just don't even get me started on Jess...
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wot don't you like jess? or is that not a safe question!!! LOL
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WHO ELSE LOVED THE EPISODE WHERE RORY GRADUATED CHILTON? I DID AND I WANT 2 NO WHY IT IS THAT RORY SAID THE THE PERSON THAT SHE MOST WOULD LIKE TO BE LIKE WAS LORELAI. AND THEN ABOUT 2 YRS LATER SHE TOTALLY INGNORE LORELAI FOR LIKE THE WHOLE SEASON? I DON'T NO IF IT IS JUST ME BUT THAT IS SOOOOO RUDE, SELFISH AND IMMATURE AND SO UNLIKE RORY!!! SEND ME FEEDBACK!!!???!!!
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Hi and welcome, please take a look around before starting a new thread in General discussion, there is an episode discussion thread for such posts.
http://www.gilmoregirls.org/forum/index.php?topic=115.0
Hi and welcome anyways..
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I LOVED THIS EPISODE!!! RORYS SPEECH MADE ME CRY FOR HOURS! I BOUGHT THE SEASON ON DVD AND I WATCHED IT OVER AND OVER!! WHAT IS UP WITH LUKES HAIR LOL?
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He totaly buzzed it!
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This episode made me cry! Poor Rory! :'(
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I also cried by Rory's speech.
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Add me to the band wagon of people who cried during Rory's speech.
I wish my high school graudation was as fun/heartbreaking as that.
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i did cry a little during rory's speech (if i have a daughter i want her to say something like that to me!) but not as much as a cried when rory was on the phone to jess even the 3rd time i watch it i still cry but now i can't watch it anymore its too much than i can take!
i did think it was cute the way that rory and paris said goodbye!!!
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The same thought comes into my head about this episode. Paris should have been valedictorian. There is no way that Rory had a higher grade point average. Paris never got less than an A- in her life. Rory got a D on her first paper at Chilton. Even if she got straight A's forever after, that still wouldn't beat Paris.
At some schools (like mine) people apply for being valadictorian (sp?) I kno that rory didnt apply b/c in the eppisode b4 this one she said that she didnt want to write another speech but maybe people voted for her anyway or something even if she didnt apply
I know this show has inconsitencies, just like any other, and that's probably why Rory is Valedictorian when people say Paris should be. But just for argument's sake, here's how Rory could have beaten Paris to Valedictorianship:
Rory did get a D on a paper, and Paris never got less than an A-, but Rory could have gotten a D on the paper, and still redeemed herself to get an A in the class. I have gotten plenty of bad grades here and there, but still got good grades in the class overall. If Chilton is such a great school, then they would look at things like improvement, class participation, and general intelligence to determine grades, not just add averages. I doubt whoever determines the Valedictorian looks at every single grade on every paper, but probably just the grade the student wound up with for the class itself. So let's say Rory got an A in every class, and so did Paris and 5 other kids. They wouldn't start looking at individual tests and paper grades to distnguish one from another. They would start looking at participation, behavior, PSAT and SAT scores, and prestigiuos colleges that each were accepted into. They would ask teachers for reccomendations. They would look at attendance. So I see many ways that Rory could have possibly won the title over Paris.
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I thought Rory's speech was amazing. How excellent to describe her relationship with her grandparents and her mother?
I thought it was a great way to keep on the tradition of Friday Night Dinners with Rory needing to borrow money from her grandparents. I was wondering how ASP was going to keep the Gilmores so attached and into Rory's and Lorelai's life!
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hey just to tell you that this episode is one of my favorite moments just amazing episode rory's speech is a speech of a high quality written with intelligence all that she said fits so well with what happened in the show previously she sums up really well her relationship with the people she loves and the way sh's been brought up and how greatful she is to her mother i cried so much during her speech and we could see wonderful things happening in lorelai's eyes ,she was proud so proud and these are moments of the show that i believe to be true totally forgetting that's it's a show !unforgetable eoisode ;)
who noticed that there was an important person missing at the graduation and also not mentionned in the speach ?
try to guess who it is ? "its not Christopher"
IT4S JUST CAME TO MY MIND yesterday !
waiting for the obvious answer !
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same with the speech!!! lol
if you have the DVD's for season 3 look at the extras and deleted scenes for the eppy... omg the second one is reeally good!!!!!!!
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yeah i already did great !!!
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I loved Rory's speech. I tried really really hard not to cry. Needless to say it didn't work that well. But it was so sweet that Luke was crying. Once again, he's so much more of a father than Christopher was to Rory.
I loved the second deleted scene on the DVD. It is very good. Although I think Lorelai should've been portrayed as a bit older, because she looked exactly the same as in "Dear Emily and Richard," but she was supposed to be around 25.
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Yes! I loved this episode. This makes my top 3 of GG episodes!
It really shows the relationship between Rory and Lorelai.
Lorelai attempts to sacrifice her money to pay for Rory's tuition at Yale. While Rory refuses to let her mother pay for Yale, she sneaks over to her grandparents' house to ask for money...
I just wish I could have that kind of relationship with my child. What a great eppy!
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I <3 this eppi. It's the start of a new journey for both Lorelai and Rory. During Rory's speech I couldn't help but cry. there I was watching it at 3am( i own the season) and blubbering away. I <3 how both were so selfless in this eppi. Lorelai willing to put her dreams on hold yet again for Rory and Rory willing to give up her friday nights so that her mother could finally have her dream. I hope one day that my daughter and I can have this relationship.
I agree with viola. Lorelai still looked 16 in that deleted scene. They should have kept the scene though...It was sad and crucial to the growing up process....regardless this was the besteppi in the season. I also Love how Rory said good-bye to Jess. It was sucky of him to leave and I'm glad she was grown up about it <3
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i cried a river watching this one! rory's speech was just amazing. then the epi before this one, when lorelai was going through rory's yearbook and she asked rory if she was named the valedictorian.. omg the look on lorelai's face!!
anyways i think chris really pushed it in this episode. i know lorelai said he was away on business or something but seriously, wth.. your daughter is graduating from high school.. it only happens once... graduating from chilton.. a valedictorian!! your same daughter that got accepted to 3 ivy freakin league schools!! i don't care if you have a meeting with the dalai lama! you just got to be there!!!
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The same thought comes into my head about this episode. Paris should have been valedictorian. There is no way that Rory had a higher grade point average. Paris never got less than an A- in her life. Rory got a D on her first paper at Chilton. Even if she got straight A's forever after, that still wouldn't beat Paris.
At some schools (like mine) people apply for being valadictorian (sp?) I kno that rory didnt apply b/c in the eppisode b4 this one she said that she didnt want to write another speech but maybe people voted for her anyway or something even if she didnt apply
Perhaps Paris didn't make Valedictorian because she blew off school for like three days in a row with no explanation when she found out she didn't get into Harvard. She did make up the work, but maybe attendance was part of the valedictory requirement as well.
I loved Luke dreaming about Lorelai not asking him to get engaged. I can't wait to get through season 4 so I can get to the all important Luke and Lorelai pairing!
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i know lorelai said he was away on business or something but seriously, wth.. your daughter is graduating from high school.. it only happens once... graduating from chilton.. a valedictorian!! your same daughter that got accepted to 3 ivy freakin league schools!! i don't care if you have a meeting with the dalai lama! you just got to be there!!!
David Sutcliffe (the actor that plays Christopher) had his own sit-com (I think it was a sit-com) on the air at the time and its filming conflicted with GG so he couldn’t be on the show for Rory’s graduation. That’s the only reason Christopher was not there. ;)
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Please forgive my english once again ;)
The ceremony really moved me ! The presence of Luke shows has which point he holds to Lorelai and Rory.
I think the relation enter Lorelai et Rory give desire has all.
It's beautiful when rory said: "I don't know if she ever realized that the person I most wanted to be was her."
In short, i love ! ;D
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Quote from: Dani257 on 09-02-2006, 04:55:18
The same thought comes into my head about this episode. Paris should have been valedictorian. There is no way that Rory had a higher grade point average. Paris never got less than an A- in her life. Rory got a D on her first paper at Chilton. Even if she got straight A's forever after, that still wouldn't beat Paris.
I think Rory made valedictorian over Paris for loads of reasons. Maybe I'm mistaken but I think whoever picked the valedictorian would have looked at more than test scores. And even thought Paris has done all the charity stuff etc, I'm sure whoever picked looked at the individual. At how they treat people. I think maybe that Rory was picked because of, not only her good grades (and i think the bad one at the start would have been credited to her changing schools), her personality and also, because Paris made president. She was already somthing and maybe they wanted to give someone equally deserving a chance. Also, like someone already said, I dont think Paris' "I had sex, but I didnt get into Harvard." meltdown live on C-Span helped her really.
Maybe I'm talking rubbish?
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have any of you seen the extra scene in this? its SOO good. its on the DVD for season 3. But anyway, its got chelsea brummet in and its when Rory and Lorelai are walking about the inn after its closed and all empty. And they are walking about and remembering and young rory and young lorelai are skipping about and talking too (not at the same time as the regular Lorelai and Rory) but its REALLY good. =]
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xAlisonx I just watched that deleted scene!! I had never seen it before, and I ADORED it!! I watched it twice in fact!! Haha I think they should've left it in, it was really sweet. :]
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;D I think in this episode Lukes hair looks the best in all seven seasons. He looks clean and handsome even though he can pull off the rugged look.
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I love this episode yet I cry every time I see it!! I cry during Rory's speech (who doesn't?!) and i cry during Rory and Jess phonecall! I'm such a sucker for Literati!! lol
This was a very good season finale, but for me because I do love old school GG I find the whole idea of Rory moving on from high school very sad because it means change (I hate change i know that's bad but I do!) and it means that Rory will change and I don't like that idea I just loved the earlier seasons!!
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Anyone notice the uncredited cameo by Kristen bell? She is the girl who is doing the recording at the school. Before they pan to Rory and Paris.
she went " We all knew that our education at Chilton would be exemplary, but it was the people at Chilton. All my friends - Hi Marcy, love you. Cody and Debbie, love you, too. The faculty, the administrative staff. Even our janitorial staff - Jaime and Joachim. I can't count the number of times you guys made me laugh. . ."
for info on kristen bell go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristen_Bell
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It's totally Kristen Bell! Good catch! *pretty stick*
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Is she in anything besides Veronica Mars?
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Is she in anything besides Veronica Mars?
yes. the link has information on her.
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Thanks for posting that!
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Thanks for posting that!
anytime.
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this is definitely sad. But here's one thing that always confused me--sure, rory is valedictorian but how the heck did brad get 2nd over paris?
I loved the ending when lorelai said chilton wasn't so scary anymore--she's right.
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Yeah. Brad was gone most of the time!
I MISS JESS!
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hey just to tell you that this episode is one of my favorite moments just amazing episode rory's speech is a speech of a high quality written with intelligence all that she said fits so well with what happened in the show previously she sums up really well her relationship with the people she loves and the way sh's been brought up and how greatful she is to her mother i cried so much during her speech and we could see wonderful things happening in lorelai's eyes ,she was proud so proud and these are moments of the show that i believe to be true totally forgetting that's it's a show !unforgetable eoisode ;)
who noticed that there was an important person missing at the graduation and also not mentionned in the speach ?
try to guess who it is ? "its not Christopher"
IT4S JUST CAME TO MY MIND yesterday !
waiting for the obvious answer !
nobody has never answered this question so please do it lol ;D
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Sookie?
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no Sookie was present remember she was the one who took pictures and bothered evrybody not Sookie :'(
i think that i have never heard smbd doing that comment about this episode but i really let the question open: ;D
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It's Jess?
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Is it max? He is a teacher at the school.
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is it gran?
i dont know but rory's speech is so touching i love it!
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Loved the speech..and the end with the dollar! I love how this show always goes back to things...
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who noticed that there was an important person missing at the graduation and also not mentionned in the speach ?
try to guess who it is ? "its not Christopher"
IT4S JUST CAME TO MY MIND yesterday !
waiting for the obvious answer !
Hmm, there's only 1 person (other than chris) who was not at rory's graduation but should've been was....rory's bestest friend in the entire world, lane.
well, that's my guess, anyway. I always wondered why the kind of left her out of all this. Maybe the Stars Hollow graduation was the same day.
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You are right, Lane should have been there.
Chris prob. wasn't is Rory's speech, because well....he hasnt really been in a her life that much.
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Ya. After I watched this epi, I was kinda sad that Lane wasn't there for her graduation.
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I can maybe understand Lane not being there because Chilton was in a different world from Lane (and i don't recall any mention of Rory attending Lane's graduation). But Chris should have been there, imo. Even if he had not been part of Rory's recent life, he is her father. I don't think there is any excuse for that.
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Here's my interpretation of the L&L conversation, and the bold parts are what I think they were thinking at the time of the converstation! Some of the things they might have wanted to say but were too stubborn/stupid/incapable to do so. They were thinking these things so the other one never knew what eachother were trying to say.
LORELAI: It really was great of you to come, Luke. It meant a lot to her. (You've been more of a father figure to Rory than anyone and that means a lot to me.)
LUKE: It was fun. (I love Rory like family)
LORELAI: So if I don't see you, have fun on your trip with Nicole. (That other woman who isn't even your type by the way)
LUKE: Oh, we may not go now.
LORELAI: What? You were really looking forward to it.
LUKE: I don't know if the timing's right and. . .things are kinda weird right now. (Because shes not the woman I want to be with...)
LORELAI: Oh no.
LUKE: What?
LORELAI: It's because I teased you about the commitment thing and proposing. I ruined it.
LUKE: No, that's not it. (Yes it is, dont lie to her fool)
LORELAI: Please, promise me that's not it. It would break my heart.
LUKE: But you weren't wrong about that. It got me thinking and it is kind of like committing to her.
LORELAI: So?
LUKE: I don't wanna lead her on. (I dont want to commit to another woman if there is any hope in the world that you feel the same way I do.)
LORELAI: But you like her, Luke. You like her a lot, don't you? (I dont know why you like her, everyone in our stupid town was always trying to tell me how much you liked me, even my mother knew. I was apparently the only one who couldn't see it.)
LUKE: Yeah, she's great. (But shes not you.)
LORELAI: Then go. No matter what she's reading into it. (That's great Lorelai, push him to commit to another woman, really great)
LUKE: Really? You think that's okay considering. . .I don't know. . .everything? (Considering how I've been pining for you for so long but have no way of showing it other than fixing crap around your house, building you things and basically doing everything you've ever asked me to because I'm an idiot and can't just do something about it.)
LORELAI: Yeah, I do. (Yeah sure, go be with another woman, it's not like I ever gave you any indication that I might have feelings for you, so it's not your fault...)
LUKE: Oh, okay. I'll probably go then. (Please please please stop me from going. say something to stop me going)
LORELAI: Good. (Why good, it's not good, don't say good... idiot)
LUKE: I guess I was just nervous about nothing. (and lack of any form of reciprocation of all the feeble attempts to make you realise how I feel...)
LORELAI: That's what I think, too. (Maybe he wasnt as into me as everyone thought. Maybe I'm reading too much into this, maybe it's because I never said anything... I don't know, I don't want luke to be with her... Who would I want luke to be with? Me? .... Am I being selfish? I just want him to be happy... be happy he's found someone.)
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This was the episiode where there was that lady who called Rory Audry Hepburn and Lorelai Natalie Wood right?
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no, that was in the previous episode. 3.21 here comes the son
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rory's speech definitely made me cry. i thought it was hilarious when lorelai and sookie were giving each other little mini-pep talks trying to keep each other from crying during the speech. i thought rory did a wonderful job including her grandparents in the speech.
i also thought rory was completely justified and very SMART with what she said to jess when he called her and then said nothing when she answered. he needed to hear every word of what she said, no matter how sad/hurt/angry it made him, because HE is the one who walked away. rory would have done anything to make that relationship work.
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... i also thought rory was completely justified and very SMART with what she said to jess when he called her and then said nothing when she answered. he needed to hear every word of what she said, no matter how sad/hurt/angry it made him, because HE is the one who walked away. rory would have done anything to make that relationship work.
i've always felt that Jess knew everything Rory said was true but he was simply incapable of communicating his thoughts to her. Jess was in a low state at this point, he had deep feelings for Rory but was too miserable inside to tell her how he felt. That's no excuse for anything he did or didn't do, and there was much in the preceeding episodes that he didn't do as Rory's boyfriend. I was also very glad that Rory said all she did and wish Jess had the strength to say something but it wouldn't have made much difference if he had. Rory said her piece and tried to move on with her life.
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Luke: I'm blubbering, you guys are freaks!
>.<
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I thought this was a great episode.
Very funny to see Lorelei celebrate with Sookie and Jackson for the fact that everything is so screwed up that they couldn't get the Dragonfly and the loss of the Independence Inn.
I liked Rory's scene with her grandparents to continue the Friday-night dinners.
I liked seeing Paris react towards her nanny and her nanny's children and talking in Portugese. Paris rules!
Brad's speech... hilarious... "Cherish is the word that I used to describe..." Classic song too by the Association and a great cover by David Cassidy.
Rory's speech. Yeah... it was getting dusty in that room. Luke loves Lorelei, the dream was a great to end for him in that season in the same way the season began with Lorelei's dream about Luke.
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Lorelai: Where's the pen you take orders with?
I loved this episode and Rory's speech made me cry :')
and also when she was tlaking with jess on the phone... :(
I loved Paris with her Nanny.
Lorelei + Luke = LOVE
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My dad worked in a food restaurant, and he always had pens with him. Lol.
I love how Brad started singing. Lol.
When I was first watching this episode, I was with my mom. I still remember how i couldn't take my eyes off the TV. During Rory's speech, my mom started crying. I don't cry a lot during TV shows, but I got tears in my eyes.
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one of the best episodes. and i did cry during rory's speech, i usually cry during sad parts on movies or tv shows. it was so sweet. and i love the faces that they made. [:
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Awwww that speech rory gave made me cry!!! :'(
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Anyone notice the uncredited cameo by Kristen bell? She is the girl who is doing the recording at the school. Before they pan to Rory and Paris.
she went " We all knew that our education at Chilton would be exemplary, but it was the people at Chilton. All my friends - Hi Marcy, love you. Cody and Debbie, love you, too. The faculty, the administrative staff. Even our janitorial staff - Jaime and Joachim. I can't count the number of times you guys made me laugh. . ."
for info on kristen bell go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristen_Bell
Holy crap! I just recorded this episode and... wow I didn't recognize her. Wow... you learn something new everyday. I gotta mention that in my review of Season 3 coming tomorrow.
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this ep was good, but like dani257 said, the rory being valedictorian was kind of just like Oh since shes the lead she gets valedictorian. Also like this might not be for chilton, but arent you not supposed to make the whole speech about yourself? it was beautiful and i almost cried, but shouldnt you give credit to the school for SOMETHING?
But heyy... she hadn't finished her speech when they stopped showing it. they showed the part when she talked about her gradnparents and lorelai.. but in the end she was saying "as we head up.." or something like that :P she could've said something about the school..
heyy also with pariis valedictorian... when she was dreaming about jamie she didn't take notes or anything. she says that the A-. also, if it's a popularity contest paris is right in season 2 when she says that rory is innocent and "looks like little birds help her get dressed in the morning.. she's quiet.. she says thank you and excuse me" but if it wasn't rory has shown she's a better public speaker than paris multiple times.. even paris admits it when they were doing "romeo and juliet" i
also about her D in the lit paper, max said that "the extra work will put her back where she rightly belonged" so i think at the end it was well... also lane said in an episode "you're doing very well in that shakespeare class aren't you?" and she says "not bad!:)"
although her being the lead probably did help ;)
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Brad: "...Bung bung, Bung bung..."
What the heck was that about?!
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It's part of the melody to the song "Cherish" by the Association
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i LOVED when brad starts singing and rory says "oh, brad" and then Louis says "come on brad, come out a winner" and then he starts singing and it's like >.<!! there's a guy in our school that always does things like that and i really identified with rory and louis (yeah.. weiird) because when this guy even starts opening his mouth we are all like "don't doon't pleaase doon't!! come out a winner.." but of course, the guy goes on and does whatever it is we were trying to stop him from doing. xD hilarious!
but poor brad.. i mean, he goes out of school because he's afraid of paris.. then he gets the courage to come back and again.. PARIS! i mean, i think i would be a little afraid of paris, but i would just try to avoid her, not change schools. i think it's hilarious watching someone SO scared of paris. poor guy! then he goes to broadway and comes back and paris starts with the "into the woods, into the woods" but that's for another topic.. ahhaha
i was surprised paris didn't say anything to brad at graduation.. that's what was missing! i wanted to see scared brad one more time!!! xD hahaha
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Alright, I have a question about this episode. I've watched it about 20 times before but this never occurred to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I thought they paid Emily and Richard back with all of the $75,000. Lorelai even said to the Financial Aid office that they didn't have that money anymore.
Yet in this episode, Rory and Lorelai are constantly debating what to do with "grandpa's money" -- buy the Dragonfly or put it towards Yale. So how did they
get the money back? Did Emily and Richard refuse it? Was Chilton less than $75,000? If so, Lorelai lied to Financial Aid when she said they didn't have any of
it. I was just confused by this.
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that's been confusing me too =)
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great finale, loved Rory's speech.
Paris's parents are SCUM, the Nanny's family care more than her own .
really liked the final with her and Rory after the ceremony.
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Alright, I have a question about this episode. I've watched it about 20 times before but this never occurred to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I thought they paid Emily and Richard back with all of the $75,000. Lorelai even said to the Financial Aid office that they didn't have that money anymore.
Yet in this episode, Rory and Lorelai are constantly debating what to do with "grandpa's money" -- buy the Dragonfly or put it towards Yale. So how did they
get the money back? Did Emily and Richard refuse it? Was Chilton less than $75,000? If so, Lorelai lied to Financial Aid when she said they didn't have any of
it. I was just confused by this.
I always thought Richard & Emily refused the money. After all, the deal was they'd pay for Chilton and Lorelai & Rory would come for FND. I know Lorelai always said she was gonna pay them back, but they might've refused the money.
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So I may have watched this the other day :)
Had to sit there holding back tears when Rory made her graduation speech and everyone was 'not blubbering' so my BF doesn't realise just how invested I am, haha! I mean, he knows about you guys and all but I keep you all to myself with a veneer of almost indifference.
Being thrown back into the GG world blew my mind, it opened up this part of me that has been sealed away for years. Cant wait to go to Yale!!!!!!!!!!
B xxx