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Title: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: TheHumanCoffeePot on October 17, 2005, 01:23:59 pm
Summary: Returning from her summer internship in Washington, D.C., where she mingled with members of Congress, including Senator Barbara Boxer (guest-starring as herself), Rory (Alexis Bledel) faces a dilemma in her conflict over Dean (Jared Padalecki) and Jess (Milo Ventimiglia). Lorelai (Lauren Graham) is overjoyed to have Rory home, but the news that Christopher's (David Sutcliffe) girlfriend is having a baby leaves Lorelai questioning her future.
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Post by: chadwicked on October 25, 2005, 11:05:24 am
darn those lazy hazy crazy days of summer
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Post by: lorelaigilmore16 on October 25, 2005, 05:36:45 pm
I'm quite new to the forum so I don't really know what we're allowed/supposed to post in these threads, but my favorite part of the episode was when Lorelai (or more accurately Mimi ;) ) went into Luke's because she needed to talk to him and talked about how she was happy with her life but sometimes wanted that couple thing.  Oh heck, here's the dialogue (it's part of my AOL profile because it's one of the lines that makes me realize that i am very much like Lorelai Gilmore).

Luke: Is that so bad?   You've got friends, you've got a house, a job, apparently an iron stomach.
Lorelai: No, it's not so bad.  I'm lucky I know . . . I just . . . I feel like I'm never gonna have it . . .  The whole package, you know that person . . . that couple life.  And I swear, I hate admitting it because I fancy myself Wonder Woman . . .  but I really want it.  The whole package.
Luke: You'll get it
Lorelai: How do you know?

The audience doesn't always get to see the vulnerable side of Lorelai, but it's refreshing to see every once in a while. 
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Post by: warmblanket on October 26, 2005, 11:22:42 pm
I'm sure a lot of people were quite upset when this episode first aired  because there wasn't a Jess/Rory scene ;)
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Post by: leebeasy on October 28, 2005, 08:33:46 am
Darn that lazy hazy song it always get stuck in my head no matter what!

I'm not normally a fan of dream sequences but this one was an obvious dream and it was nice to Luke and Lorelai act in such a sweet and loving manner.
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Post by: emoreau94 on October 29, 2005, 05:17:33 pm
MY  favaorite  season is three :o :o :o :o :hearts:
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Post by: coffeegilmoregirl on November 10, 2005, 07:33:24 am
Those days of laughter and peanuts and beer....(are those the words?)
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Post by: BodhiG on January 26, 2006, 02:40:39 pm
I think it's "soda and pretzels and beer."  I really like the orange shirt Rory has on when she's helping Paris get ready for her date.
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Post by: dancer1012 on January 26, 2006, 09:43:49 pm
I love the dream that Lorelai has!!! It is so funny and relates so much to now except the whole twins part?(For now anyway.) That girl Jess was with really bugs me she is so rude. Sorry I had to get that out. I'm done now.
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Post by: mhoefner on February 01, 2006, 02:12:37 pm
i love the drean she has it is so awesome i think luck is perfect for her :-*
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Post by: coffeegilmoregirl on February 02, 2006, 07:49:04 am
The dream was amazing!!!!!!That was probably my favorite opening to a season...
Paris is really pretty, she is anyway but when she gets dressed up she looks
all glamorous.
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Post by: unionroxs on February 21, 2006, 04:26:16 pm
The whole dream was awsome!! Luke and Lorelai belon together!!
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Post by: lukelorelaifanatic on March 27, 2006, 07:46:57 am
When my mom started watching this episode, she was yelling at me thinking that I had put in the wrong disc when she saw Lorelai and Luke together. I started laughing and told her to keep watching. It's really funny because later she told me that she wished the first scene wasn't a dream because she really wanted Luke and Lorelai together.  :D Also, when you try to sing the smallworld song to get rid of the Lazy-Hazy-Crazy days summer, the smallworld sticks for even longer then the first song.
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Post by: Lapis Lazuli on April 20, 2006, 02:03:01 pm
Rory is so cruel, it seems like she wants it all. She wants Jess, it's obvious to everyone but her, and she still can't let go of Dean. She's going to let him keep hanging around even though she's fallen for Jess. She totally expected Jess to be pining for her all summer too, like the way she was pining for him, I guess.

Speaking of cruelty- Emily and Richard. They don't even consider for one second how horrible Lorelai must feel. All they can think of is how disappointed they are. No wonder Lorelai left home! These people aren't human beings, but some under-developed (but moneyed) variety.

Another couple of things: Rory looked fantastic in that dress she wore to the festival. And Paris too, on her date in Washington. And I can't get that horrible song from the title of the episode out of my head either! Ugh!
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Post by: Dani257 on April 20, 2006, 03:07:46 pm
Rory is so cruel, it seems like she wants it all. She wants Jess, it's obvious to everyone but her, and she still can't let go of Dean. She's going to let him keep hanging around even though she's fallen for Jess. She totally expected Jess to be pining for her all summer too, like the way she was pining for him, I guess.

You're absolutely right.  And, it's really bad the way she treated Dean, but you can maybe rationalize that as her still having lingering feelings or not wanting to go through another breakup.  But, it was really bratty of her to have the nerve to be upset that Jess wasn't going to put his life on hold for her.  I was glad he told her off.
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Post by: Lapis Lazuli on April 20, 2006, 04:29:05 pm
Yeah. In the opening they show her trying to write (after her conversation with Lorelai about Lorelai's dream), and the words at the top are "Dear John". Like she was ready, right then, to write Dean and break it off. It wouldn't have been the nicest way of ending it, but if she were afraid to confront Dean (and he's proved to be pretty jealous), that might've been her best option. I don't want to say any more about what happens there in case it spoils it for others though *zips lips*
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Post by: eternity-love on April 20, 2006, 06:35:46 pm
I was glad he told her off.

So was I! She deserved it. Jess shouldn't be wasteing his time trying to get her. Rory knew he wanted her and it was so obvious that she had feelings for him too. She's so naive sometimes..

Yeah. In the opening they show her trying to write (after her conversation with Lorelai about Lorelai's dream), and the words at the top are "Dear John".

Wait... didn't it say Dear Jess? Like she was going to write a letter to Jess instead of Dean... unless I'm wrong (I havent watched that episode in a long time).
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Post by: Lapis Lazuli on April 20, 2006, 08:04:45 pm
Oh maybe you're right... nevermind! I wish I could turn it on again and see for myself. Maybe somebody with a DVD could help us out!
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Post by: missusmariano on April 20, 2006, 09:27:16 pm
I was glad he told her off.

So was I! She deserved it. Jess shouldn't be wasteing his time trying to get her. Rory knew he wanted her and it was so obvious that she had feelings for him too. She's so naive sometimes..

Yes definitely naive, but she was realllly very young then.  Of course, today's Rory isn't that perfect about her relationship decisions either.  :-\
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Post by: missmystery on June 10, 2006, 11:52:58 am
I agree that she was very naive. She didnt have as much dating experience since mostly the guys came to her. She didnt really have experience in breaking up with a guy and then asking a guy out [because when she broke up with dean the first time, she didnt say anything. She just didnt say that she loved him].

~::~Becca Elaine~::~
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Post by: JusTcaLLmeRedhEad on June 17, 2006, 01:53:12 pm
I dont really think that Rory is a bad person here. I mean..its really hard when you have a boyfriend that you do actually love;; but then theres also another guy that you think you might like. Its a really hard place to be in..you dont want to give up the guy that you have..but you also want the other guy. And it hurts when you see someone you like with someone else..

thats just my opinion.

I felt really bad for Lorelai in this episode when she's being attacked by her parents for having her relationship with Chris work out. It sucks enough not getting the guy you've been waiting for, but to have your parents criticize you about it must really suck.

I thought it was hillarious that Lorelai fed gummy bairs to the government dawgs. I also thought Lorelai's idea of nailing kosher (Sp.) bacon to the walls. HA.

I was so glad when Luke//Lorelai ((aka MiMi)) made up :]
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Post by: BodhiG on June 17, 2006, 06:07:21 pm
Oh maybe you're right... nevermind! I wish I could turn it on again and see for myself. Maybe somebody with a DVD could help us out!

It does say "Dear Jess".  She opens that binder and it's full of letters from Dean, but when she sits down to write a letter, it's to Jess instead.  I don't think she knew what to say, though, and ultimately she didn't send it because when they get into that argument later, he mentions that she kissed him and split, then that he didn't hear from her at all during the summer, so she should have no qualms with him having moved on.
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Post by: JusTcaLLmeRedhEad on June 18, 2006, 01:33:53 pm
Yeah..it definitly said "Dear Jess". why would it say "Dear John"??
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Post by: Dani257 on June 18, 2006, 01:55:55 pm
I'm not sure of the history of the phrase, but a "Dear John" is a break up letter.  When you write to tell someone that a relationship is over, it's called sending them a "Dear John"  But, Rory still wouldn't have actually written those words, since she wasn't actually writing to anyone named John.  I think it would have been too much of an attempt at cuteness for her to actually head up a break up letter with the words Dear John. (Unless of course, the person's name was actually John)  So, no, she wrote Dear Jess.

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Post by: JusTcaLLmeRedhEad on June 19, 2006, 01:13:45 pm
oOh ok. so dear john is a phrase?? i thought Lapis Lazuli actually thought she was writing to some odd person named John. got it.. thanks for claryifing Dani :]
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Post by: Dani257 on June 19, 2006, 02:30:44 pm
OT:  Yes, it seems the phrase "Dear John" started during WWII, when American service men overseas got letters from their sweethearts back home, saying they wanted to break up.  It was called a Dear John, first because John is a common name in America, so there were a lot of men named John fighting, and also because the letters were always formal.  There was no affection or tenderness, just a quick "lets call it off" for one reason or another (sometimes because the woman had met someone else), and instead of starting the letter with something loving or an affectionate nickname like they usually would write, like "Dearest" or "Darling" they wrote a cold and formal "Dear John" in the heading.  So, when a girl breaks up with a boy through a letter, it's called a Dear John.

And, that's probably more than you wanted to know ;D
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Post by: BodhiG on June 21, 2006, 11:46:14 am
Cool history lesson!  I had this conversation with a guy at work who had seen Dumb and Dumber a few too many times because he said something about a "John Deere" letter.  I had to explain the whole thing too him and I had a hard time getting the point across.  Your explination would have come in handy. ;)
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Post by: Lapis Lazuli on June 21, 2006, 09:23:01 pm
Oh well I goofed! I guess I can't be right all the time  ;)
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Post by: lou20 on June 23, 2006, 03:20:10 am
OMG loved the first scene when Lorelai had the dream where she was pregnant with Luke's babies and with all the alarm clocks, i would have gone mad with 30 of them going off at once, but it would have got me up and moving!!
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Post by: rorylovesjess on June 24, 2006, 03:55:16 pm
Yeah, at first I was like, um...did I miss an episode or something??? Rory acted a little bratty in this episode, but she was in a difficult position.
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Post by: eternity-love on June 24, 2006, 05:14:22 pm
LOL! i remember i freaked out.. i actually jumped out off my couch and looked through my DVD set to see if i put in the wrong DVD, but by the time i did that the scene had already ended :P.
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Post by: totalggfan84 on June 29, 2006, 06:31:19 pm
i love the dream lorelai has. i remember watching this episode in reruns on abc family and it was my first time watching season 3 and i remember thinking "OMG, what happened? Did they skip a season?" and then you see lorelai wake up and call rory. then i started to breathe again. i love when rory tells lorelai that lorelai is in love with luke and lorelai rejects that analysis of her dream and says she wants a new one. so funny! it also took about 2 weeks to get the lazy-hazy-crazy days of summer song out of my head.  ;D
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Post by: gilmoregroupie on July 01, 2006, 09:15:47 pm
i LOVE this epi! i love lorelai's dream! it would b soo awesome if that was the opening of another epi except it was real!  :D
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Post by: GilmoreFan623 on August 22, 2006, 12:31:39 pm
I like this episode to. I thought it was sooo funny when Jamie comes to take Paris on her date and Paris makes Rory hide in the closet!! I to thought Rory was acting a little brartty in this episode, but she was also in a really tough spot which I can see that to. And of course I loove the makeup between Luke and Lorelai,  :)
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Post by: Stars-n-Moons on September 04, 2006, 02:55:27 pm
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i LOVE this epi! i love lorelai's dream! it would b soo awesome if that was the opening of another epi except it was real! 
Yeah, eventhough I am a Chris fan, untimately I want to see Lorelai happay, and in the first 2 minutes of that eposide, she was ;)

Aside from Rory not being happy with what she had, I do have to say that I felt a little bad for her.  Her and Jess did have some chemistry going on in season two.  And now she is back and probably wanting to continue the "friendship" and she sees  that he has totally moved on which was a big "slap in the face" if you will.  Taylor was really funny in this eopisde.  I took me weeks to get the crazy song out of my head!
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Post by: Potterxxx on September 09, 2006, 11:04:07 am
i loved this epi. i can recite the dream sequence word for word.(i wont do it here, i might get snarked.) my friends think im a little nuts. THe first time my brother watched this (we have them on DVD, adn yes my bro watches them) eppie he said "wait. what happened to nicole? " and then Lor woke upa dn he was liek ohhh!
The "Whole package" scene was such great acting.
best quote of the season. Emily: Its a scone mix. Lorelai: well, thank you mom. I will put this on my counter and stare at it for MANY years to come!
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Post by: Imy on September 24, 2006, 11:41:20 am
LOL! i remember i freaked out.. i actually jumped out off my couch and looked through my DVD set to see if i put in the wrong DVD, but by the time i did that the scene had already ended :P.
thats totally what i did i was like is this the right series!!!! i totally freaked too!!!
i was quite sad that jess and rory didn't talk!!!
i thought it was quite sweet that rory didn't know what write. personally i was thinking what are you doing rory cos i would write something along the lines of "i love you jess i don't regret kissing you and i'm gonna break up with dean" except i'd put it more subtley!!!LOL
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Post by: laurenfan on September 24, 2006, 10:47:16 pm
I loved Lorelai's dream it was awesome I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
When she called Rory and asked her why she was dreaming about Luke and she wanted another explanation other than the one Rory gave her it was so obvious she liked Luke. :)

The bad thing about this ep was that darn song Lazy Hazy Crazy Days of Summer got stuck in my head,everytime I hear now It gets stuck for a while LOL!!

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Post by: andrea on October 17, 2006, 07:36:51 am
jess is such a jerk but you got to love him
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Post by: StarsHollowFan on October 21, 2006, 12:24:18 am
I'm sorry but I couldn't stop laughing at the dream Lorelai had. It was all kinds of funny. Heck, season three was the funniest premiere (well of 1 and 2 that i've seen).

And that red/pink dress Lorelai was wearing in an early scene was HOT (because the wind blew it and you could see her whole bodies outline). I wonder if she was wearing any underwear  ::)
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Post by: Imy on October 30, 2006, 12:53:56 pm
i loved this epi. i can recite the dream sequence word for word.(i wont do it here, i might get snarked.) my friends think im a little nuts.
i quote gg all the time and my friends go crazy!
i love this episode its just so crazy!!!!!
however that song is so annoying!
i thought it was quite sad though when lorelai got upset about the 'whole package' thing though cos you realise that she never really had it and you don't often see lorelai have a breakdown is it just me or does she have a lot of breakdowns infront of luke ??? ???
i personally thought it was quite sweet the way that rory didn't know what to write now i can't tell if it was the writers who couldn't figure out what she would be feeling at that point or whether she actually was just lost for words? who knows??
i still don't get why jess was with that girl cos he didn't know that rory was still with dean.................??
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Post by: gilmorerock on November 03, 2006, 10:49:56 pm
Every one knows the song is annoying but I tried Lorelais method. She was right
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Post by: #1GilmoreGirl on November 09, 2006, 09:45:04 pm
I love this episode! but dean is soo annoying! rory needs to get back together with jess and leave logan because logan kinda turned her into a whole new rory and I like the old rory better.
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Post by: Gilmore_Luver_08 on November 12, 2006, 02:07:55 pm
Oh maybe you're right... nevermind! I wish I could turn it on again and see for myself. Maybe somebody with a DVD could help us out!

It does say "Dear Jess".  She opens that binder and it's full of letters from Dean, but when she sits down to write a letter, it's to Jess instead.  I don't think she knew what to say, though, and ultimately she didn't send it because when they get into that argument later, he mentions that she kissed him and split, then that he didn't hear from her at all during the summer, so she should have no qualms with him having moved on.

I felt so bad for Jess, I mean, he liked her soooooooo much! And then she kisses him nad then she leaves! Jess must have been heartbroken! And then Rory gets mad he had a girlfriend,that he didnt even like! (thats what i got from it!) Usually, I reli like Rory.But she makes me mad in this Eppy.Acting likes its Jess' fault!
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Post by: Aimmers514 on December 13, 2006, 02:36:21 pm
I agree...that lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer song was annoying!  It got stuck in my head wayy too much... I finally had to download the Nat King Cole version of the song so it would get out of my head.

I loved the Congressional Brunch that they were at with actually US Rep and Senators!

Aww Paris and Jamie date was so adorable.  They were so good together.

I also thought it was cool how Lorelai and Rory meet at the airport.  :)

Also, I thought it was really sad when Lorelai had to tell her parents about her and Christopher...I felt bad for her...
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Post by: violaplayer1234 on December 26, 2006, 02:31:53 pm
It was nice (well, not nice for her, but for me it was) to see Lorelai actually not being WonderWoman.  I guess it was nice to see her have to lean on other things.

I agree, Rory was being a bit bratty, and almost annoying in this episode, but she was having a terrible time, so I really cannot blame her.

I loved the dream, and seriously thought I missed something when it happened.  But it was so cute, and Lorelai was so happy in her dream.

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Post by: ggaddict24 on December 27, 2006, 03:28:37 pm
I was sooooo happy with the beginning of this episode!!
NOW THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE!! They just belong together.
And I totally agree that Rory was being annoying. Good grief I didnt like her in this episode.
I liked the bacon part, and sookie and jackson part was pretty funny too. Poor Sookie. :D
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Post by: Gilmore_Luver_08 on January 01, 2007, 01:07:39 pm
Although i love this episode,i hated Rory in it.(strongly disliked,actually) i mean,she KISSES HIM! then runs off and tells him not to tell anybody, then leaves the freakin state! and she gets mad at HIM?what kind of twisted reality is that?even tho i hate shane cause u could never see jess' face cause hers was plasterd ontop of it!**lol** i agree with jess he shoudnt have been put in the position to have to sit there and wait for rory,knowing shed go back and date dean again.What was he suppose to do,really?He had his heart(cause he loved her,lol my world at the moment) broke.U could obviosly see how much he cared about her,in many of the previose episodes!**rant over!**

~!~Emily~!~
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Post by: gilmoreren on January 12, 2007, 01:59:29 pm
People who are in love don't always think straight...

Rory was just confused and i think it takes her another a couple of episodes to realise she likes Jess and not Dean.

Hey, when I was her age I was convinced i was in love with some sap called Ross....
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Post by: uncledub on January 19, 2007, 03:24:46 am
this is the best season starter out of all the 7 seasons, hands down. such a funny episode, there are two scenes in this one that i play over and over and over and over, infact i might break the dvd disc soon with the all the rewinding/repeating. When Paris has her freakout before her date with Jamie and of course, the immense scene with Jackson having his freakout after Sookie has refurbished their entire living room with stuffed animals, hunting & fishing stuff. Instalaughattacks
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Post by: Imy on January 20, 2007, 03:38:24 am
I agree uncledub it his a very good season starter!!! -freakouts are very good in my opinion!
it always makes me think of summer and i like summer!!!!
Gilmore_Luver_08 i do agree that Jess was right and Rory had no right to be angry and also i do hate shane but rory did just leave him hanging all summer which was really selfish basically!!! although i do have nothing against the previous episode where they kiss!!!
however.....
i also kinda agree with gilmoreren cos people in love don't think straight that's the reason she kissed Jess in the first place!!
sookie is so hilarious with Jackson! beef bacon!!!
the dream is so funny it really confused me the first time i saw it but by the time i figured out that it can't be the wrong episode lorelai had woken up!!!!
yey for Paris!!!
oh my gosh i don't think lane is in this episode!!! y'know its wierd rory didn't tell lane about the kiss but i guess she didn't wanna put lane in a wierd position to feel awkward! that's one thing rory does right!!!!
she asks him not to say a word and he doesn't cos he really loves her!!!!
wow that was a long post!
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Post by: Gilmore_Luver_08 on February 17, 2007, 01:12:40 pm
this is the best season starter out of all the 7 seasons, hands down. such a funny episode, there are two scenes in this one that i play over and over and over and over, infact i might break the dvd disc soon with the all the rewinding/repeating. When Paris has her freakout before her date with Jamie and of course, the immense scene with Jackson having his freakout after Sookie has refurbished their entire living room with stuffed animals, hunting & fishing stuff. Instalaughattacks

I agree. Best season starter ever! I mean,it starts out so great. I was addicted! *Sure I loved the show b4 that,but w/e* lol Poor Paris :'(  lol  ;D
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: scrsftbalgrl19 on March 27, 2007, 01:56:11 pm
Did anyone realize this.


In the dream... when Luke talks to Lorelai's stomach, he calls the twins: Sid and Nancy, then Lorelai says Leopold and Lobe, don't tell Rory. 

Now go back to Season one episode 16:Star-Crossed Lovers and other Strangers. IN the episode when Emily tries to set Lorelai up with Chase, he says that he lived in the Stone house on the corner. Then Lorelai says, "the one with the Dobermans?" and he says, "yes Leopold and Lobe...". The dogs' names are the same as what she wanted to name the twins.. isn't that really weird?????????????
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Post by: Gilmore_Luver_08 on March 28, 2007, 04:31:32 am
Sorta. I don't think the writer's thought anyone would notice something like that though. lol. I love this episode. its good,*not as a lit,though.Nothign lit happens! :-{} * but its good.
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Post by: xAlisonx on April 10, 2007, 07:13:57 am
It took me FOREVER to get the "Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days" lyrics out of my head!! and i didnt do the singing the SMALLWORLD song over and over cuzz'...well mainly cuzz' i dont watch smallworld. but still =].

Even though i'm not a huge Dean fan, i think Rory was quite mean to him, he never actually did anything wrong and she was just kind of...being selfish. I didnt like when he was soo happy to see her and she was looking over his shoulder at Jess and Shane.
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Post by: xxLL4Everxx on April 14, 2007, 10:57:56 am
I loved the dream in this episode! I was so happy at the beginning. L/L having a baby! OMG! I was so happy. The only downside was L/L were still fighting then so it couldn't be real.
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Post by: tabbycat on May 19, 2007, 07:59:22 am
Yay, I have Lorelai's clock (from the dream) lol  :P
I took a picture  :D
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u89/tabbycat-graphics/clock1.jpg)
My brother got me it for Christmas, I love it but the alarm is so loud  :P
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Post by: LitLover on May 19, 2007, 02:52:58 pm
tabbycat - That's so cool!  :)

I love this episode!  Wonderful L/L dream plus a jealous Rory equals a happy me.  :D
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Post by: Imy on May 21, 2007, 08:48:15 am
wow that is such a cool clock you're soooooooo lucky!!

I don't really like Dean but I do agree that what Rory did to him was very bad and totally out of order. However Dean did something a lot worse to Lindsay. And Dean said to Lorelai in 'Back in the Saddle again' "she likes Jess doesn't she" so Dean could admit it then therefore he was letting himself be strung along and that doesn't excuse what rory did but it does mean that Dean didn't exactly help himself either!
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: tabbycat on June 02, 2007, 02:29:03 pm
Lol, thankyou both. It's cute but the alarm is awful, it nearly causes me to have a heart attack everytime it goes off  :P
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: skftex on June 02, 2007, 08:10:21 pm
Did anyone realize this.


In the dream... when Luke talks to Lorelai's stomach, he calls the twins: Sid and Nancy, then Lorelai says Leopold and Lobe, don't tell Rory. 

Now go back to Season one episode 16:Star-Crossed Lovers and other Strangers. IN the episode when Emily tries to set Lorelai up with Chase, he says that he lived in the Stone house on the corner. Then Lorelai says, "the one with the Dobermans?" and he says, "yes Leopold and Lobe...". The dogs' names are the same as what she wanted to name the twins.. isn't that really weird?????????????
Well, not as weird as you think, because Leopold and Loeb (thats the correct spelling) are famous murderers.  Nathan Leopold and Richard A. Loeb were wealthy college students who murdered a 14 year old in Chicago in 1924.  They thought they could commit the perfect crime. I think that's why she says don't tell Rory, because they are murderers.  Dobermans being guard dogs it makes more sense that they'd be called Leopold and Loeb though.  So it makes sense they'd both know who Leopold and Loeb are, not like Lorelai just pulled those names right out of thin air. :)

Sharon
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Post by: Dani257 on June 13, 2007, 03:39:10 pm
*lets out a most unlady like snort*  Somehow it escaped me that Lorelai named her dream twins Leopold and Loeb!  I know ASP had a fascination with famous murders (one I share) since she refrenced the Manson family more than once.  But, if anything convinced me that this dream was not her way of foreshadowing future events, it was calling the twins Leopold and Loeb. 
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: JillianLovesFood on June 14, 2007, 10:46:09 pm
I always thought that part was strange too. However, I think maybe she threw that in for a little freudian deeper meaning dream interpretation....


Lorelai being woken by alarm clocks( biological clocks), her going downstairs in a sexy nightgown, finding the hidden coffee (shows control and determination not to give up), "eggs" being cooked(sexual reference), Toys (also a sexual reference hightlighted by Lorelai saying: "Dirty") Q-tips (Yet another sexual reference), the fact she's married in the dream to someone who she's totally comfortable with (okay secretly in love with), not just pregnant but also pregnant with twins (an example of wanting to have a big, connected family), and of course being happy. Leo and Loeb could be an example of the struggle of humanity or the universe through opposite forces like; tainted/purity, death/life, dark/light, yin/yang... etc. So making something so pure and innocent like babies and giving them a name that references people who killed and were guilty could reflect this struggle.


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Post by: GlmrGrltAtHeart on July 04, 2007, 03:04:28 pm
Wow. Even though that interpretation was made on June 15 and that was a couple weeks ago and I just discovered it, that is deep man(I know you are not a man but I am playing the hippi thing here so just go with it). Very deep. So deep that you deserve a pretty stick for that awesome annalization(sp?). Groovy.

So I just saw this episode today and I got the "lazy hazy crazy days of summer" song stuck in my head so now I have to sing the small world song. And thanks to Lorelai's ability of thinking to far ahead(well in this case at least) I am not going to get the small world song out of my head until I go to bed tonight.
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Post by: lalaliz2005 on July 06, 2007, 04:36:43 am
Yep, I have that song stuck in my head now too. (Just sing the "It's a Small World"  ;))

I had forgotten how much I loved this episode until yesterday. It's great! I love the whole Paris-has-a-date part and of course the best part is the beginning scene with L/L. It's one of my Top 10 fav epis.
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Post by: LitLover on July 06, 2007, 07:46:11 am
So I just saw this episode today and I got the "lazy hazy crazy days of summer" song stuck in my head so now I have to sing the small world song.

Noooo!  Now I'm going to get that song stuck in my head, too.  *turns on CD*

Okay.  Phantom of the Opera should certainly drown out any thought of summer or pretzles or beer.  ;)

I adore this episode!  Lorelai's dream is amazing, and her conversation with Rory about interpretations (Taylor/Dean hula hooping, etc.) is hilarious!
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Post by: Imy on July 06, 2007, 12:14:24 pm
^lol your sooo funny sharon!!
yeah totally Taylor and Dean hula hooping that's a tad creepy!!!
Wow us JJ's can only hope that one day Lorelai's dream comes true except that they really shouldn't name their kids Leopold and Loeb!!  
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Post by: BonVoyage1 on July 07, 2007, 11:51:59 am
This episode has the opening scene in all of Gilmore girls
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: Gilmore_Luver_08 on August 18, 2007, 04:50:03 pm
I like this episode, when its with Lorelai. After the season finale on season 2, by Season 3, (and through the start of season 3) I lost all respect for Rory. How can you go to new york for a boy, make him believe you feel something for him, watch him come back for you, kiss him, tell him not to say anything, then run to washington! Not to mention she came back and started to pretend everything was hunky-dory with Dean. Now, I know she started to write Jess letters, but never once did she send one. Jess can't get a girlfriend, when he knows perfectly well that Rory was still with Dean? Now, that makes no sence what so ever to me.
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Post by: LoveMe011 on October 26, 2007, 10:51:44 am
I was glad he told her off.

So was I! She deserved it. Jess shouldn't be wasteing his time trying to get her. Rory knew he wanted her and it was so obvious that she had feelings for him too. She's so naive sometimes..

Yeah. In the opening they show her trying to write (after her conversation with Lorelai about Lorelai's dream), and the words at the top are "Dear John".

Wait... didn't it say Dear Jess? Like she was going to write a letter to Jess instead of Dean... unless I'm wrong (I havent watched that episode in a long time).

yes, it definitely said "dear jess." it was like she was TRYING to write to dean, but the relationship was so played out they didn't have anything left to talk about anymore. so she wrote jess. =]
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Post by: Lilly Gilmore on October 26, 2007, 12:03:45 pm
oh my gosh, the opening scene with Lorelai's dream freaked me out so bad the first time I saw it. All I could think was, 'How could they have jumped so much over the summer?! What about what happened with Christopher???'

And then she woke up. lol

That and the thing with Rory, Jess, and Dean. Felt sorry for Dean, was slightly annoyed with Rory, and just wished Jess would get a room. (That way he'd be out of the camera...)
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Post by: LoveMe011 on November 15, 2007, 12:36:43 pm
The beginning of this episode freaked me out as well. I was thinking "man, a lot happened over the summer. the whole episode after this scene is going to have to play out some serious flash-backs for me to connect these dots." but when lorelai woke up i was a mixture of relieved and disappointed. relieved because i hadn't missed anything and disappointed that she and luke weren't really married and expecting twins. =] i also liked how lorelai immediately woke up, fell off the bed reaching for the phone, and called rory to ask for a dream analysis. paris muttering names of senators and members of congress in her sleep was hilarious. then, when it shows rory sit down to write a letter to jess and paris rolls over and exclaims "i did not have sexual relations with that woman!" i literally burst out laughing.

i thought it was hilarious when paris got asked out on a date and totally missed it. then when she realized that she HAD been asked out, she kept saying "i have a date. I have a date." i thought that was pretty hilarious.

i was surprised that lorelai and rory got into that public argument about the dean situation. and then dean walks up and they both just drop it and plaster smiles on their faces.

when jess and rory argue about what's been going on over the summer, i felt like jess absolutely had a point. rory never even so much as called him a single time over the summer. she kissed him, freaked out, demanded that he keep it a secret, and then ran off, not to be seen again until the end of the summer. what was he supposed to do? sit in his room and wait on her to get back? get real. so, he found a way to occupy his time until she came home. i believe jess definitely knew that he was settling for MUCH less than what rory had to offer by spending his summer with shane, but we can pretty much assume that the only chemistry the two of them had was physical, based on the fact that all we see them do is make out. he was just biding his time, and showing rory that it wasn't as if she was the only girl in stars hollow that wanted a chance with him. i think it was actually pretty smart on his part. it seems to motivate rory, because it doesn't take long after this for her and dean's relationship to finally fall apart. i'm not saying i've been WISHING she and dean wouldn't work out, but it just becomes obvious, as dean says in the episode with the dance marathon, that she would rather be with jess.

and we all just want to see rory happy, right?
=]
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Post by: LoveMe011 on November 16, 2007, 01:09:31 pm
there is a strong possibility that i am over-posting this episode, but i noticed something when i watched this episode again last night.

when rory is helping paris prepare for her date and paris is asking a bunch of questions about how you know when you've met someone you should "be" with, rory begins describing how she knew she was with the right person in regards to dean, but as she kept talking, she began describing how things were with jess. for example, she starts off saying that the person you're with should like the same books as you and like to trash the same movies as you, and then she made some comment along the lines of "there's just something about not knowing what the other person is doing all the time that's just...exciting." that's not verbatim but it's close enough. then, you can see by her facial expression and reaction to her own words that she realized she was now describing jess and not dean, then quickly closed the subject.
i noticed this last night, because i turned on the dvd player to start where i had left off the night before, but i was cleaning my room so i got distracted and never did skip to the part i was supposed to start at and ended up rewatching this episode completely. and since i wasn't looking at the tv and being distracted by the visual of what was going on, all i heard were rory's words. then, as i noticed that she was obviously talking about jess instead of dean, i looked at the tv in time to see her kind of shake off the thought of the dean/jess situation and change the subject. i thought it was very interesting.
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Post by: starshells on January 14, 2008, 01:47:09 pm
Lazy Hazy crazy Summer days... 8drifts off* That song is going to be stuck FORVER!! I know, just sing the small world song.

I really think its unfair of Rory to do this to Dean, Dean (as overprotective as he ma be) really cares for her, I can see why Lorelei would get mad... and what is with Jess and Shane just sitting there making out?? Jess must have known that Rory was coming home!! i thought that was sucky of him.  >:(
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Post by: Ange on January 17, 2008, 01:43:50 pm
Those Lazy Hazy Crazy Days is just amazing i think it was a great start for season three... lorelai's dream was crazy if i had a dream like that about a friend i would be paranoid forever :) but i think that lor telling rory what for was good for her because she did take dean for granite and even if he is over protective he only means well and rory knows that..... jess, i cant believe he was kissing that nasty shane girl like who really does that (making out on a tree in town!). then again i cant fully blame jess becasue he didnt get a call or letter from rory and how can she really expect him to wait around i mean come on its jess were talking about!!
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Post by: Gilmore~Girl on February 02, 2008, 10:05:50 am
How did Taylor break his leg!?
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: lessa on July 01, 2008, 11:24:49 am
I'd forgotten, too, but he said someone had left a banana peel on his front doorstep. I got the idea Jess was supposed to be behind it, sort of giving the lie to the idea that all his pranks are harmless. Then again, it might just be a fourth wall coincidence.

Yippee, the future has arrived! And much faster than usual, long live the revisiting!

I like this episode because I interpret dreams for my own amusement, and "time is running out"+"a decision that must be made" (clocks/twins, resp.) is such a good setup, I think the writers must have consulted a dream dictionary. Wanting coffee but not getting it is a symbol for a need to think before leaping, and a toy in her cereal is a symbol for surprises and domestic joy in a new stage of life (In a sense, it really is "dirty!") Q-tips are a symbol for emotional cleansing, and, unless I'm way off base, Connie Chung's old face is a symbol for Christopher's predictability. Yeah, stare away, it's "The Real Paul Anka" all over again. just don't get me started on the one about Taylor and the hula hoop.

Favorite lines:
Taylor: "Yessirree, minimee, I did not put the word 'madness' in the title for nothing!"
Luke: " Yup, it’s tough when the universe is against you. That’s like taking on the Manhattan garbage union. "

And one of my favorite parts was the big revelation about Rory's similarities to Richard. Christopher is neither emotionally calculating or intellectually acute enough to "choose" Sherry for the opportunity to be part of a family, for all that Richard approves. Richard drew up Christopher's pro-con list and shoved it right in Lorelai's face, pointing out the absurdity of anyone getting serious about her in black and white terms. No doubt realizing she had been the same kind of jerk while coaching Rory about Jess, she seemed a lot softer on Jess when she found herself sharing a karma with him.

I thought Rory was a little unemotional making her pro-con list about Dean, but in hindsight, it seems more like she was angry with Jess than that she was indifferent to Dean. Like Richard, she isn't really approving the "good" guy so much as punishing the "bad" guy, irrespective of the reality of the "crimes." Dooooom, Narcoleptics! Doooooooooom!

And of course, there was the similarity Rory shared with Luke. He (finally) forgave Lorelai and gave her friendly hope and encouragement with all the sensitivity of Rory prepping Paris for her first date with Jamie, and the whole "your gonna be fine" thing is something neither Paris or Lorelai was getting from any of the people who had written them off or wanted revenge.
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: bingbong on July 02, 2008, 05:46:39 am
Taylor says he has a list of suspects about the banana peel. I imagine it's a long list and Jess' name is surely on it. It's probably based in reality about as much as Rory's list.

I am no good at interpreting dreams, but lessa's Connie Chung/Christopher symbolism cracks me up (intentionally funny or not). Lorelai was quicker to dismiss Rory's interpretation about loving Luke than to dismiss the jealousy over Sherry. Understandable as things currently stand, but Luke is not some random guy filling in for Christopher in the dream.

In this and the following episodes the Rory-Dean-Jess triangle gets too-too dragged out for me. How many different ways can Rory screw-over Dean? Eyeballing Jess & Shane while hugging Dean was a worthy addition to her ever-growing list of shameful behavior. I will excuse her non-reply to Dean's "i love you" on the phone because, despite the factors involved, i give her credit for not saying those three words unless she means them. It brought back memories of their first break-up, when Rory behaved honorably towards him.

Rory's list-making is normally one of her endearing traits, but here she perverts its function. It served its purpose as a defense mechanism for protecting her pride after seeing Jess with another gal. She is warping her normally rational mind to suit her needs more than ever in this triangle mess. Somewhere inside she must admit to herself that a pro-con list cannot resolve her feelings, as though matters of the heart are as intellectually driven as choosing between Harvard and Yale. The thing is, we already heard her crap about devoting herself to Dean back in the graduation episode. She's in more of a defensive posture this time but it's the same bogus result.

I love Lorelai's "make up your mind" speech. I feel like she is speaking on my behalf: enough already! For Lorelai it's a turning of the tide in her attitude, following from the graduation episode. Even a potentially dangerous road trip to New York didn't tip the scale for Lorelai the way lip-locking did. She can't resist a vaccination joke at Jess' expense but she is prepared to accept Rory and Jess as a couple. She didn't buy into Rory's "decision" in favor of Dean. But, hey, Rory can say she took Lorelai's advice and made up her mind!

As tiresome as i find Rory in this episode, Richard is plain despicable to me. He basically dismissed Lorelai as a hopeless case, not even worthy of a second chance with Christopher because she didn't follow his idea of protocol and marry him when she was 16. Christopher impregnates another woman out of wedlock and all Richard gets out of it is another reminder of the first time around. Christopher is honorable and Lorelai is selfish, end of story. What kind of parent rips his daughter that way, without a thought to her feelings, as though she is not even sitting in front of him? It doesn't occur to him that Lorelai is already upset about the pregnancy? His behavior here is much worse than in "Richard in Star's Hollow" because now he is taking shots at Lorelai's character. Emily comes across as comparatively harmless with her quick-fix fantasy of Lorelai throwing herself at Christopher with a proposal of marriage and magically casting Sherry aside.

Lorelai's wish for the whole package is a reminder that romantic love is the one area (a big area) where she consistently struggled. But it's also a reminder of successes in other parts of her life (as Luke reminds her): terrific mom, successful career, popular about town. It's a further reminder that Emily & Richard rarely acknowledge her successes, but they pounce on any perceived failures or disappointments.

The "Mimi" scene is one of my favorite Lorelai & Luke scenes, at least among their serious scenes. After a gut-wrenching evening with the parents, she seeks comfort in a place that always feels like home, with the hope of resolving one conflict in her life. It's got to be hard for Luke listening to her heartbreak over Christopher, her dream thwarted, with the implication that he's not part of her dream. On the other hand, she is now unattached and still looking for the whole package. And, ah, if only he knew who was appearing in her dream. I'd love to know his interpretation! Well, he would give one interpretation to Lorelai and think another to himself.

Paris' nervousness and utter lack of confidence over her date with Jamie reminded me of her date with Tristan, except this time the guy is worth the effort. I love how she is willing to forgive him for being a Princeton man and complains that she was finally asked on a date and missed it. What a kick seeing her vulnerable side, for once not in complete control of a situation or how to behave, then melting when Jamie arrives. One of her most self-depracating moments (which only seem to happen when guys are involved) came when she insisted that Rory hide in the closet for fear Jamie would prefer the sight of her.
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Post by: lessa on July 02, 2008, 03:29:30 pm
Not to mention her suspicion that Trent Lott is behind it (or his brother. Mmm, real life fast-forwardy moment.)

I liked Emily's quick-fix solution, because it's such a neat polar opposite to Richard's indictment of her commitment phobia. Lorelai had probably given full consideration to the idea of fighting for Christopher, since he's kind of wrapped around her little finger. But she wasn't ready to commit to marrying him, they haven't put in the time and earned the codependence yet, and she probably actually believes half of what Richard is saying about her felicitous mind-changing. She can't just marry him, or she very well might have done exactly as Emily suggested.
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: laurla205 on July 03, 2008, 11:59:21 am
Here’s my shot at a lessa-like interpretation.  When I was watching the episode last night all I could think was that the way Emily and Richard were dissecting the situation must be very much like what was going on inside Lorelai’s head.  Of course the fact that Christopher is doing the honorable thing has entered Lorelai’s thoughts.  It is probably the very reason she is so understanding about his return to Sherry and the memory that, once upon a time, he was ready to do the same for Lorelai can’t be far behind.  As we see when Mimi makes her grand entrance, Lorelai is very concerned about what’s wrong with her that the whole package always seems to be just out of reach and how her own fierce independence might play into it.  Then there’s the passionate side of Lorelai that was so excited about this opportunity and her heart was probably screaming for her to run after Christopher and convince him to stay with her, to tell him that it’s where he belongs regardless of how it affects anyone else.  Besides we’ve never known either Richard or Emily to give anything but a distasteful attitude for Lorelai not following their way of life, not to mention they don't miss an opportunity to remind her of it.  I’m not sure that I found Richard’s statements to be as offensive as others however I am a known Emily and Richard apologist so take it with a grain of salt.  I will say that we are often times hardest on ourselves and following my theory that Richard and Emily are portraying Lorelai’s inner struggle, their demeanor is appropriate.  I’m also not sure that Sherry getting pregnant out of wedlock isn’t a reminder of Lorelai doing the same for everyone involved, not just Richard.  Richard is wrong to throw it in Lorelai’s face and condescend as if she’s not even in the room.  He is so good about showing restraint when it comes to every area of his life but Lorelai.  When Emily is hurting Richard doesn’t care why and just wants to rectify whatever caused it.  When Lorelai is hurting all he can do is pile it on. 

Was that a fleeting bit of sympathy entering my mind for Rory’s indecisiveness, why yes it was.  I know, I’m having a hard time believing it myself.  Rory is just so clueless in this episode it’s hard for me not to (finally) empathize with her a little bit.  It’s as if she doesn’t have a clue why or how Jess could have moved on.  Like her kissing him and then running off to disappear for six weeks without a word isn’t a justifiable cause for him to think she was doing the same.  And then to try and actually justify kissing him to Lorelai, nothing could cause this sort of self-defense other than refusing to think it through to a point where she would realize that she’s done something very wrong.  I do find her decision and reasons/list to stay with Dean to be despicable.  She makes it seem (or really wants to believe) as if she’s had this light bulb moment about how she has been treating Dean… but decides to stay with him and keep doing it for just a little longer. There is no better lesson on ‘the heart knows what it wants’ than the sequence of events that follows. 

No sympathy however for Luke listening to Lorelai being torn up over Christopher.  He’s had all the time in the world to make a move ;)  Lorelai Gilmore does play an excellent Mimi.  Lauren Graham is so good in this scene, I don’t know what more I can say about it.  It’s heart-wrenching and really, who among us doesn’t feel like this once in a while despite our own successes. 

Paris’ self doubts are so exposed in this episode that it’s hard not to compare her to Lorelai and maybe even Sookie.  Just like Lorelai, Paris doubts whether she’ll be able to find the right one.  She’s almost ready to dismiss the whole dating scene as a waste of time out of fear for of putting too much on the line and the relationship not working out, much like a younger Lorelai.  Instead of doubting herself Sookie doubts Jackson and his ability to be truly at home in her world, still trying to prevent any future rifts that might come between them for fear of the eventual effect being resentment and the possible failure of their marriage. 

Something that has struck me in the past and still does is Rory’s proclamation of ‘solidarity sister’.  It’s such a twisted way of looking at the situation.  She does have every right to be angry at Christopher for leaving her without a permanent father figure once again.  She also has a right to be angry with him for hurting Lorelai, making promises he isn’t keeping, etc.  That said, the idea that as it stands she will freeze him out as long as Lorelai does is not justifiable.  It reminds me of a high school clique where one girl decides to hate someone and the rest of the members follow suit.  I know she understands that she doesn’t have to follow Lorelai’s lead but I don’t know that she understands how to apply that just yet.  Thankfully it won’t be too long before she figures that one out. 


I love Lorelai’s red shirt in this episode:

(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s222/laurla205/Lorelai.jpg)
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: lessa on July 03, 2008, 02:08:52 pm
^_^ I agree.

Poor Rory, it seems sometimes that she would trade both boys for a solution that wouldn't make anyone hate her. It seems bizarre how far she's willing to go to be with both of them until you meet her parents. XD

I guess I feel most sympathy for Christopher. I mean, I've heard the old saw about dating your best friend and ruining the friendship, but I've never seen it happen so fast, even on TV.
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Post by: bingbong on July 06, 2008, 10:19:42 pm
I don't see Emily & Richard as a kind of Greek chorus for Lorelai's inner thoughts, but it was probably inevitable that a few of their ideas coincided with Lorelai's. For example, Emily's idea of Lorelai convincing Christopher to be with her. I will venture to guess, Lorelai and Rory had that thought. But Mimi's discouragement did not sound at all similar to Richard's dismissive tone and i don't think he was close in voicing her inner thoughts. She talked about waiting for Christopher to grow up and the elements of the universe and wanting it all. She admited blame for Max without suggesting regret at backing out of the wedding. I heard frustration and fear that she might not attain the whole package, with the implication that she could end up as a pretty town spinster. But much of it was directed outwardly at forces beyond her control, unlike Richard's insinuation that it was all somehow caused by her selfish design. I don't question that Lorelai can be hard on herself and doubt herself, but nothing along the lines of what Richard was getting at. 

Something that has struck me in the past and still does is Rory’s proclamation of ‘solidarity sister’.  It’s such a twisted way of looking at the situation.  She does have every right to be angry at Christopher for leaving her without a permanent father figure once again.  She also has a right to be angry with him for hurting Lorelai, making promises he isn’t keeping, etc.  That said, the idea that as it stands she will freeze him out as long as Lorelai does is not justifiable.  It reminds me of a high school clique where one girl decides to hate someone and the rest of the members follow suit.  I know she understands that she doesn’t have to follow Lorelai’s lead but I don’t know that she understands how to apply that just yet.  Thankfully it won’t be too long before she figures that one out. 

I think Rory needed a feeling of solidarity with her mom as a way of cushioning the blow for herself. She was not showing solidarity only for Lorelai's benefit, but for herself as well. She was feeling her own individual pain, every bit as personal as Lorelai's, and she was not ready to resume normal relations with her dad, at least not yet. But her own hurt was intertwined with that of her joined-at-the-hip mom. She and Lorelai had their own perspectives but they suffered the same loss. If she was taking a cue (perhaps subconsciously) from Lorelai about freezing him out, i can understand that. She's had plenty of experience in being disappointed by her dad, but this is an unusually large letdown and i don't think she was really equipped to handle it. Lorelai was barely equipped to handle it. Rory needed to channel her hurt/rejection/anger/resentment through her mom. Even if Lorelai wasn't deliberately trying to influence Rory's thinking, her own freeze-out set the example of what Rory needed at this moment, to be dealt with openly at a later time.
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Post by: gg crazy on July 07, 2008, 01:05:32 pm
That song was so annyoing!!! i wish jess never came 2 stars hollow! making with shane i front of rory? that was cruel! >:(
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Post by: honkifuluvGG on July 07, 2008, 11:27:24 pm
WOW - I finally got a chance earlier to re-watch this episode and the dream sequence at the start ...  ahhhhh  :smitten:  Java Junkie heaven.  I remember when this episode first aired how excited and devesated I was all at the same time.  Excited that I was getting some JJ action, sad that I seemed to have missed the whole courtship somehow and then devastated that it was all a dream.  ASP was one cruel lady!

I'm about to dish up the kids dinner so don't have long, but just really had to come along and share my fave moments from this episode.  Of course there was the above mentioned dream sequence and who doesn't just adore the Mimi sequence at the end.  ALso one of my favourite JJ moments pre their actual relationship, but the most awesome part of this episode for me was the Paris stuff.  Seeing her in boy dating mode was brilliant.

I adore this whole scene in particular ...

JAMIE: So, in your opinion, how was our nation’s capital?
RORY: Well, I got to see Archie Bunker’s chair at the Smithsonian Museum, so it was a big thumbs up for me.
JAMIE: Yes, there are times when this country’s priorities are exactly right. So, where’s Paris?
RORY: Hm, not quite sure. Last time I saw her, she was beating the will to live out of our nation’s representatives.
JAMIE: She is a hammer, isn’t she?
RORY: Actually, she’s the entire toolbox.

[Paris walks up to them]

PARIS: Damn. I always seem to catch the most interesting politicians right when they have to use the bathroom. Hey Jamie.

[Paris walks over to another table and Jamie follows her]

JAMIE: Paris. Just came over to let you know I got a little sneak peak at the final debate pairings for today. It seems like you and I are going to be on the same side this time.
PARIS: You’re kidding? You’d think they’d like to give someone else a fighting chance for once.
JAMIE: Apparently not.
PARIS: God, I love this. You don’t realize how unqualified most of America’s youth is until you gather them all up in a room and make them speak. So, who are we up against?
JAMIE: Jason Roundsevault and Ty Fredericks.
PARIS: Perfect. Jason’s got asthma and Ty cries.
JAMIE: Okay, so we should meet early and go over strategy, make sure you bought enough Kleenex.
PARIS: Good, good.
JAMIE: And then tonight we should get together and celebrate over dinner.
PARIS: What if we don’t win?
JAMIE: Don’t lose it on me now.
PARIS: You’re right.
JAMIE: So, dinner?
PARIS: Sure.
JAMIE: Good, I’ll swing around for you about seven.
PARIS: Fine.
JAMIE: Okay, see you at the slaughter.

[Jamie walks away and Rory walks over to Paris]

RORY: Wow!
PARIS: Yeah, can you imagine pairing me with Jamie? I mean, why not just line the hallways with self esteem counselors right now.
RORY: Paris?
PARIS: What?
RORY: What do you mean what? He just asked you out on a date.
PARIS: He did not.
RORY: Yes, he did. You’re having dinner with Jamie tonight.
PARIS: It’s a victory dinner, that’s it.
RORY: Paris, if he just wanted to celebrate winning a debate, you guys could’ve had coffee afterward, but he asked you out on a date.
PARIS: He did?
RORY: Yes.
PARIS: Did I accept?
RORY: Yes.
PARIS: I’m going on a date?
RORY: Yes, you are.
PARIS: Oh man, I can’t believe this! I finally get asked out on a date and I missed it? Was it a good ask-out?
RORY: It was a very good ask-out.
PARIS: God, I wish I’d been there.
RORY: Well, you’ll be there tonight.
PARIS: Tonight? Tonight I have a date. Tonight I have a date with Jamie – a Princeton man. I can overlook that. Oh my God, I can’t believe it. . .I have a date.

And this line ...

PARIS: For example, I can instantly deduce that when someone hears the name Paris in the same sentence with the word date, jaws will drop, confused looks will cover faces, words like ‘how’ and ‘why’ and ‘Quick, Bob, get the children in the minivan because the world is obviously coming to an end!’ will immediately fly out of people’s mouths.

If I was that way inclined I would be so turned on by Paris.  She's just awesome!!!!! :D


Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: thevoid99 on July 18, 2008, 03:39:23 pm
I love Paris!!!  Her one-liners and freak-outs are classic. 

The dream that Lorelai have... it's the dream that every fan wants and as of now via fan fiction, it's what everyone is destined for.  The Gilmore-Danes baby! 

I also loved the Sookie storyline of trying to put manly-manly things in her house for Jackson. 

Jess kissing Shane... ew!!!!  I hate that song too.  There's 2 options to get rid of annoying song.  Hum the riff to Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir" or... for those who are into extreme music.  At the maximum, highest volume.  Play Lou Reed's 1975 classic (I think it's classic) album Metal Machine Music.  64 minutes of nothing but feedback. 

Damn you Christophool!!  Damn you to hell!  Getting Lorelai and Rory's hopes up for a perfect family and only to f*ck up by knocking up Sherry!  Now Emily is pissed off.  I sympathized with Emily's feelings over what Christophool about him not being there for Lorelai and Rory.  Yet, I understand Richard's argument of Christophool doing the right thing.  It's just that he should've done with Lorelai and Rory.  Yet, another pattern of Christophool's screw-ups is that when all else fails, Lorelai has to turn to the one guy who has always been there for her.  Luke.  Yet, Lorelai chooses to play Mimi.

And Lorelai does look hot in that red shirt. 
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: dianakarenina on August 27, 2008, 07:54:07 am
i thought it was quite sweet that rory didn't know what write. personally i was thinking what are you doing rory cos i would write something along the lines of "i love you jess i don't regret kissing you and i'm gonna break up with dean" except i'd put it more subtley!!!LOL

But there was the issue with Lorelai... i mean, Rory couldn't just leave everything and go with Jess... also if she wrote it she'd have to break up with dean.. which is something she doesn't know how to do :S so it's a really big conondrum. i mean, i wouldn't know what to write to Jess either...  i thought it was really sad that dean had sent her like a MILLION letters and she was writing to jess... made me feel bad for dean ): (even if he's too jealous in season 2... i loved his reaction to rory wearing a cast.. he was great)
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: billmask92 on September 10, 2008, 09:21:33 am
That song is just the most annoying song i have ever heard. It jsut gets stuck in your head and stays there.
Another reason the hate taylor, lol.

I am Jess/Rory all the way but they way he was just there, i hated him for that.
I loved Lorelais Yes, Jess thing.  ;D
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: LoveMe011 on September 10, 2008, 09:30:16 am
"yes, it's Jess?!"

you're right, that was a funny moment. lorelai has a way of making not-so-funny things funny.
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: billmask92 on September 10, 2008, 09:34:33 am
Shes does and sometimes without even trying  ;D
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: LoveMe011 on September 18, 2008, 06:28:39 am
I enjoyed watching Rory's reaction to seeing Jess and Shane kissing, and I also enjoyed watching Lorelai's reaction to Rory's reaction to Jess and Shane kissing (hope I didn't lose you guys there).  At this point, Lorelai knows (though she still gives Rory the option to choose to stay with Dean) that Rory has feelings for Jess, and I think it's really cool of Lorelai to let RORY be the one to make the decision. We all know Lorelai isn't a big fan of Jess Mariano, but it speaks volumes about her respect for Rory's judgement for her to have let Rory make this decision on her own. For a while, Rory chooses to stay with Dean...but we all know how things end up. I just rewatched this episode and Lorelai's Cool Mom factor goes up each time I see this one. :)
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: billmask92 on September 18, 2008, 09:24:00 am
Nah dont worry you didnt loose me :P. Yeah i agree that its was good of her to let Rory choose and no try to do what Emily did to her. Lorelai is the cool mother. She also didnt say anything when she did get wtiht Jess even though she didnt like him. She let her figure it out for herself.

Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: flowergirl321 on January 20, 2009, 10:41:54 am
this was good. But I hated that song that they were singing it was annoying!
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: Lorelai_Luke12 on February 27, 2009, 02:38:50 am
is this the one where Lorelai has that weird dream? coz if it is i loved that episode it made me laugh, but the names for the  twins were kinda freaky!!  :D werent the names sid and nancy or something?
Title: Re: 3.01 - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days
Post by: Gilmore Gyrlie on March 17, 2009, 04:53:25 pm
Still think that Lorelai was stupid for sleeping with Christopher, but I did feel bad for her when she was in Luke's Diner.



Loved when she got on Roey about treating Dean like dirt, it needed to be said.


Paris looked beautiful in that dress, so sad that she doesn't realize how pretty she is.