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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2008, 05:29:32 pm »

rory talking about the urine mints was like the worst thing u can ever say on a date. its so gross and werid.
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2008, 02:44:12 pm »

I just remembered something.  Traci Lords and Scott Patterson had worked together previously back in 1993 in the film Intent to Kill that was the first movie Scott has ever been in. 
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« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2009, 05:43:45 pm »

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« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2009, 05:45:12 pm »

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« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2009, 05:40:21 pm »

This is a great episode, L&L's first date that doesn't involve paint rollers. I like the way the fundamentals applied to Rory's date. On the one hand, Luke thinks it's fundamental to get a good gut feeling about someone, and on the other, Lorelai thinks it's fundamental that you have to try many times and give it a chance to find that feeling.

It seems like they were both right and wrong. Rory didn't have a gut feeling about Trevor and the date was a "learning experience." But she felt at home with Smiths laundry basket guy right away and he wasn't interested.

It's hard to accept Lorelai's fundamental stance with Emily, but it did prove out. She avoids Emily religiously because whenever their lives intersect, it ends up in an argument that makes them both miserable. I felt bad for Natalie - it's apparent a person has to go way above and beyond professionalism to stand between Lorelai and Emily!
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2009, 07:57:52 pm »

I do have to agree with you lessa.  I am one of those people who has a hard time getting the deeper meaning that is meant in tv shows, movies, books, etc., but when someone points things out, I do understand it.  I mainly just get what I like or don't like out of things.  I did really like this episode for all of the funny little things like Luke trying to send Lorelai out of the diner when she was on the phone and how when Emily called and didn't catch it and Lorelai had to get his attention to get him to tell her to get off.  And when Ed came in to get the tickets and the whole Cujo, Benji, Lassie references.  Lorelai sneaking out of the house when she found out Rory wasn't there yet.  Amongst a lot of others.  I liked Lorelai's not so Lorelai look with the short black skirt and red and black vest and then when she is wearing her glasses, too.  My husband commented on that outfit. 

I felt bad for Natalie, too, being in the middle of the whole Lorelai and Emily thing.  It really wasn't fair to her (OT ~ it was funny, not haha funny, though, to see Traci Lord on the show.  She was in one of Scott Patterson's first movies playing his wife)

I thought that Lorelai and Lukes first movie night was cute.  Poor Luke had to deal with all of Lorelai's rules.  She makes up all of the rules and she never follows them, other than the not answering the phone.  She never had to worry about that one before because Rory was always right there with her up until this night.  Poor Luke and his early to bed thing.  He couldn't make it to the end of the second movie. 

This episode seemed to have so much in it.  I really enjoy watching it. 
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2009, 08:12:51 pm »

Hi, ma cheri, mwah! I also love the way it gave Lorelai an insight to her mother's world of being unable to keep a staff. XD And why she ended up doing most of the decorating herself. I loved the rant about having a grown-up excuse to buy a pony.

Hee, I thought of another fundamental. Sookie and Jackson are still living the middle part like gangbusters, more in love with each other each day, even though they lie and play more games then Lane Kim. From the bat Sookie made up to lure Jackson over for their first git-down soul train date to getting into a fight with him over naming their kid Colgate so he won't know it's a boy, they're all about the secrets and lies.

A lot of Lorelai's beaux asked her for bluntness and bald honesty, but that sort of thing would be absurd for Sookie and Jackson. It's like they're a paradigm of the perfect love Lorelai's after because even though they fib and mislead one another and make stupid mistakes, Sookie and Jackson would never do anything to hurt one another, and they both trust that.
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2009, 09:54:52 pm »

lessa, I forgot to thank you for the screencaps.  They are really great. 
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2009, 06:40:34 am »

Oh, no problem, it was fun. If Monday doesn't explode over the weekend, I'll do them for "Affair," too.
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2009, 01:46:31 pm »

Yes I wanted to say thanks to lessa.  If you dont get a chance to though I just thought I'd mention that Home of the Nutty is back up and running and caps are available there again.

And Cheri, I have to agree with you on the whole deeper meaning of the show titles.  I tend to be a face value entertainment person also and I think nobody gets the actual meaning of these episodes as well as lessa.  Always a fun read to see her draw the parallels of the intertwining storylines and the shows main theme.

I think this is one of my favourite episodes.  In watching it again I am still amazed that there is just something amazing about every second of this episode.  The script is brilliant and delivered so well.  I know that can be said for a lot of the episodes, but this episode really stands out as one of the top ones for my mind.

I particularly love that we see Luke and Lorelai in a social situation together - just the two of them.  Warms my JJ heart! Smiley  And I think I feel a certain parallel to Lorelai here as I am exactly like that when I watch movies.  Everybody gets the rules rundown beforehand - absolutely no talking etc., but the second I think of something I just have to say, well... they are my rules and meant to be broken lol.

And we get some good Paris in this episode also.  Her description of Janet working out and likening it to porn always cracks me up a little.  I love Paris!


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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2009, 02:58:01 pm »

That's one of the things I like so much about GG, it runs deeper than other dramedies. ASP doesn't just write, she crafts television, and her vision is refreshingly complex. She's like the Gene Roddenberry of girl talk. It definitely speaks to my inner ovaranalytic trekkie.

I looked at Home of the Nutty, think I'lk subscribe just so I can throw a few TV shows into the ring. But I've got to hand it to 'em, Dr. Who is already there. I did screencaps because Season Four is a blank wall in the image library, did you say HOTN had some?

L&L's first (non hardware related) date really is heartwarming, it's hard to remember it took four years to put them into the situation. And he seems so comfortable, not just falling asleep during the movie, but also relaxing and telling Lorelai what he really thought about relationships and helping her with Rory's problems. I know, he does that all the time, but it's different when he's in her house. XD And They showed a lot of contrast in their teamwork, with Lorelai giving Rory spiritual advice to relax and try to take away a memory next to Luke's rigidly practical advice to pretend she felt a draft if she wanted to change seats.

Heh, the movie night rules... where did they even come from? It's hard to picture her observing so much structure during a movie night with Rory. They talked plenty during Willy Wonka on Rory's first cas date with Dean. And when they watch sitcoms or foreign language flicks, they make up dialog and talk all over the television.

It's almost like she made up a bunch of rules especially for Luke, either because she thought it would be considerate to lay down the rules she thought he would make if he knew about watching movies in a group, or she was just afraid he would ruin the fun with a "this is stupid" rant. It's no wonder he finds her so annoying - but how can he resist, she's got color coming out the yin-yang!
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2009, 08:14:48 pm »

Awwwwwwwwwwwwww man, Laundry dude shot poor Rory down.



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Will someone please hug little Tanna, she really needs one.
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