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« Reply #5715 on: May 31, 2007, 09:18:59 pm »

Found this on http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue155/news.html  about the Rosewell Campaign

Roswell Fans Push For Renewal
Fans of The WB's teen alien series Roswell are taking their "Save Roswell" campaign to a new level, with a full-page advertisement in the Hollywood trade paper Variety on April 10. The fans, who have incorporated as Alien Blast, will pay $2,500 for the ad, the first of two planned to encourage The WB to renew the freshman series.

The ad will say, "We would like to thank The WB for the hottest show on television. We are looking forward to next season!" Such fan action is not unprecedented: Last year, fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer took out a Variety ad to protest The WB's decision to delay two controversial episodes. Earlier, fans of The Sentinel took out their own ad, which is credited with prolonging that series' life on UPN.


Maybe a letter to Variety may help the Great8Mandate campaign? [/b]

OMG! (Rob bops self on the head like "Wow! I could've had a V8!")  Believe it or not, this one isn't even unprecedented in Gg fandom -- Nadine from IIRC FanForum actually organized a For Your Consideration Emmy ad in Variety (and IIRC, the Hollywood Reporter) for Lauren after season 5.  So this is acheivable.  I don't know when Emmy nominations are supposed to be in by, but the nominations are announced in the 3rd week of July or so, so it may not be do-able as an Emmy FYC ad -- it wasn't a full page ad, it was, like, a half-page column.  But since it's already been done once for Gg, there's absolutely no reason why we can't do it again.  The funding might take a month or two, but really, we're aiming for a midseason replacement run anyway, so in that respect, we've definitely got enough time to organize a campaign.

My snarky slogan for the ad would be: 

(And let me remind you that the suggestion below may be just a leeeeeeeeeeeeeeettle over-the-top:   Dance

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AT THE TOP:  "The Academy Doesn't Know You Exist* . . ."  (can't use the Emmy logo as it's trademarked)

INSERT:  (Ideal:  Recent cast photo -- must get permission from Warner, I think.  IIRC, they probably won't approve of even using the show's logo, but there still might be ways to do it by getting permission from their management teams to use individual photos of Lauren and Alexis.  Lauren gave permission for use of her likeness for Nadine's FYC Ad, for instance)

AT THE BOTTOM:  ". . . but we do.  And we want you back for one more season.  13 episodes, tops.  (Okay, and one 2-hour finale episode written and directed by Amy Sherman-Palladino." 

"If you want to participate in the campaign to save Gilmore Girls, please join the Great 8 Mandate at www.gilmoregirls.org"  (insert Mandate logo here.)

* asterisk/Small but respectable type = "* Well, the Makeup technicians in the Academy do.  Thank you for your great taste in shows!"

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Also, this one's non-negotiable:  Any and all money donated above the cost of the ad must be donated to a charity of the choice of the actors.  1) (most importantly) It's the right thing to do and 2) because it's probably the only way to get permission from the actors to allow us to use their likenesses without having to pay professional rates for it.  Lauren has done a lot of fundraising for Breast Cancer Research, don't know what Alexis's would be.

I have no idea how Nadine did it -- if anyone knows her, please ask her to come on around and help us.  I don't think that she did it *just* through PayPal donations.

So, anyway, anybody want to take the lead on this one?

  -- Rob

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If and when we raise the money, let me know and I can design the ad.  I have *extensive* experience designing ads for publications and I have all the necessary programs.  It would be very feasible and we wouldn't have to pay someone to design it then.
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« Reply #5716 on: May 31, 2007, 09:27:54 pm »

Just so you all know ...

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for the Press Release.  All ages, most states, many countries!

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« Reply #5717 on: May 31, 2007, 09:29:43 pm »

Found this on http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue155/news.html  about the Rosewell Campaign

Roswell Fans Push For Renewal
Fans of The WB's teen alien series Roswell are taking their "Save Roswell" campaign to a new level, with a full-page advertisement in the Hollywood trade paper Variety on April 10. The fans, who have incorporated as Alien Blast, will pay $2,500 for the ad, the first of two planned to encourage The WB to renew the freshman series.

The ad will say, "We would like to thank The WB for the hottest show on television. We are looking forward to next season!" Such fan action is not unprecedented: Last year, fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer took out a Variety ad to protest The WB's decision to delay two controversial episodes. Earlier, fans of The Sentinel took out their own ad, which is credited with prolonging that series' life on UPN.


Maybe a letter to Variety may help the Great8Mandate campaign? [/b]

OMG! (Rob bops self on the head like "Wow! I could've had a V8!")  Believe it or not, this one isn't even unprecedented in Gg fandom -- Nadine from IIRC FanForum actually organized a For Your Consideration Emmy ad in Variety (and IIRC, the Hollywood Reporter) for Lauren after season 5.  So this is acheivable.  I don't know when Emmy nominations are supposed to be in by, but the nominations are announced in the 3rd week of July or so, so it may not be do-able as an Emmy FYC ad -- it wasn't a full page ad, it was, like, a half-page column.  But since it's already been done once for Gg, there's absolutely no reason why we can't do it again.  The funding might take a month or two, but really, we're aiming for a midseason replacement run anyway, so in that respect, we've definitely got enough time to organize a campaign.

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Also, this one's non-negotiable:  Any and all money donated above the cost of the ad must be donated to a charity of the choice of the actors.  1) (most importantly) It's the right thing to do and 2) because it's probably the only way to get permission from the actors to allow us to use their likenesses without having to pay professional rates for it.  Lauren has done a lot of fundraising for Breast Cancer Research, don't know what Alexis's would be.

I have no idea how Nadine did it -- if anyone knows her, please ask her to come on around and help us.  I don't think that she did it *just* through PayPal donations.

So, anyway, anybody want to take the lead on this one?

  -- Rob


If and when we raise the money, let me know and I can design the ad.  I have *extensive* experience designing ads for publications and I have all the necessary programs.  It would be very feasible and we wouldn't have to pay someone to design it then.

Well, that's the $64,000 question (actually, I think the ad was more like $7K IIRC).  We've definitely got you as a great resource for all the media design work and that's a huge enough job for you, what we need is someone with the organizational skills to spearhead the fundraising itself.  And I definitely don't have a clue how to do that.  I'm, like, the opposite of Kirk with money.

  -- Rob

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« Reply #5718 on: May 31, 2007, 10:27:41 pm »

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« Reply #5719 on: May 31, 2007, 10:54:32 pm »

I sent Heidi a Personal Message about this but haven't gotten a reply yet. I suggested another round of the Daisy Campaign. You know, using PayPal to collect enough money to send one (or two or three or...) very big bouquet(s). And maybe someone other than Heidi could organize it this time since she's done so much already.

I've put off writing this post for a while now, for fear of it making me extremely unpopular, but I'm going to bite the bullet and hope that I still have my ORG Forum friends when all is said and done.

To begin, I feel the need to say that I really, really (really) wanted season 8.  The Great8Mandate was born in February; back when season 8 wasn't on anyone's radar.  Back when you'd mention "Gilmore Girls season 8" to entertainment reporters and they'd laugh at the absurdity.  From early February until mid-May I gave 110% to this campaign.  At one point I was devoting nearly six hours a day to the site and Great8Mandate.  I exhausted every avenue I could think of to try and make the Great8Mandate a success ... and as we all know, we came so very close.

This is an incomplete list, but look at all we accomplished.  The Great8Mandate was mentioned on E! Online, TVGuide.com, Zap2it.com, BuddyTV.com, Courant.com (the Hartford Courant newspaper), the L.A. Daily News (both in print and online), About.com, ContraCostaTimes.com, etc.  And let's not forget the big one ... we won the E! Online 'Save One Show' poll.  We had the most votes.  We won.   

I'm certainly not trying to take credit for all the accomplishments of the campaign (because this truly was a community effort); I only want to reiterate my love for the show and support for an additional season. 

With that said, I just don't see season 8 happening at this point.  I'm basing my opinion on recent news and interviews, and also from Gilmore contacts I've made over the years.  There have been no indications by anyone or anything that season 8 is still in the cards.  I'm sorry.

I know that some of you hold out hope for a miracle, or perhaps want to see the show as a mid-season replacement.  And to you I say, "Prove me wrong."  I don't mean that at all in an antagonistic manner; I'm saying, "Please, prove me wrong.  Nothing would make me happier."

What will become of the Great8Mandate?  I hope it continues to thrive.  For season 8 supporters, please mandate, mandate, mandate.  If you believe in season 8 and have the dedication and passion to try and turn the tides, keep going.  Assuming anyone wants my advice or input, I'd be happy to offer assistance.

As for me, I'm going to focus my efforts on supporting a Gilmore Girls movie.  Even though I won't be campaigning for season 8, I'm still going to use the moniker Great8Mandate as it has been a great buzzword for our cause (CW and Warner Bros. executives/public relations people are VERY familiar with the campaign).  While season 8 might be out of the question, I still think the term applies to the overall goal.

To answer the original question ... am I willing to organize another Daisy Campaign?  No, not at this time.  Not for season 8.  However, a couple months from now will I be willing to organize another Daisy Campaign directed at Amy Sherman-Palladino to remind her that she has a community of fans waiting for a Gilmore movie ... absolutely.

Hopefully I haven't lost too many friends with this post.  I'm only sharing my own thoughts and opinions.  In the coming days and weeks I'll be detailing more of what I have in mind for the Great8Mandate campaign -- movie edition.

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« Reply #5720 on: May 31, 2007, 10:56:12 pm »

Rob's Great 8 Mandate Welcome Post and Mail Primer

For those of you who are new to the Great 8 Mandate Thread, Welcome!  I know that a lot of you are wondering what you can do to help try to convince the CW to uncancel Gilmore Girls, especially since Memorial Day has just passed and energy can sag a little bit after a three-day weekend like Memorial Day.  Well, heck -- Amy Sherman-Palladino has voiced interest in doing a 2-hour movie, and Scott Patterson, Kelly Bishop and Liza Weil have all three voiced reservations about the season finale being a series finale -- so it's clear that no matter how much time is passing, most people that are most important to the show (some of whom have even left the show) *do* want to keep it going.  So that's all the more reason to keep going, full speed ahead.   This post is about voicemail, email and snail mail.  Here’s what you can do:

1)  SEND SNAIL MAIL:

Handwriting is fine if your penmanship is good because it's such a personal form of communication.  Otherwise, typing and signing and mailing by snail mail is the single BEST way to contact them.  They expect to be deluged with email and voicemail and that helps as far as it goes, but the amount of effort that it takes to write/type a letter on paper and send it in an envelope always  makes a bigger impression than email and voicemail and the like.  There's a rule of thumb that floats about in various media industries that every individual piece of correspondence that's written on paper and delivered by mail represents the sentiments of at least 7 other people.  So if literally tens of thousands of pieces of snail mail are received, that's going to make a MUCH bigger impact on them than electronic forms of mail.

There are various addresses you can send your correspondence to, which are posted on page 1 of the thread, but IMO, the people who have the most potential to help are IMO, Lauren, Alexis and the CW’s President of Entertainment, Dawn Ostroff, who is the nexus of all network realities at the CW.  They can be contacted at the following addresses:

Ms. Dawn Ostroff, President of Entertainment
The CW Television Network
4000 Warner Blvd., Bldg 168
Burbank, CA 91522-0002
Email: [email protected]
or post your comments at the Lounge at www.cwtv.com

Peter Roth
President, Warner Brothers Television
300 Television Plaza
Burbank, CA 91505

Amy Sherman-Palladino
c/o Creative Artists Agency
2000 Avenue of the Stars
Los Angeles, CA 90067

Lauren Graham
c/o John Carrabino Management
100 North Crescent Dr.
G-400
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Alexis Bledel
c/o Flutie Entertainment
6500 Wilshire Blvd
Suite 2240
Los Angeles, CA 90048
Email:  Michael Flutie: [email protected]
Email:  Paul M. Brown:  [email protected]


As the series season finale has passed, email and voicemail can become handy, but don't discount Snail Mail as the network and actors will always take Snail Mail more seriously than any other form of correspondence.  Snail Mail has become even more important now that the Upfronts have been announced, so I have a few tips/suggestions to help make you make your letters, voicemail and email as effective as possible:

* BE BRIEF:  Keep the length of your letter down to ONE side of ONE page, double space it and use a simple 10 or 12-point Times font.  (Arial font is hard to read.)   If your letter goes on for only one or two more lines beyond a page, don't sweat it, but the longer the letter is, the less of it they'll read before they move on to the next one.  Double-spacing is the exact opposite in print as it is online -- it's much  easier to read on paper than single spacing is -- and again, the need to be as brief as possible will make you more concise and to-the-point.  Conversely, single spacing will make you look a little wacky, especially if you go on for more than one page.

* BE BRIEF (AGAIN):  If you must single-space to get all you want on one page, skip a line between each paragraph as that will help maximize readability.  But definitely do not go over one side of one page at all.  And I'd suggest if you're going to do single-spacing your message should take up no more than 2/3rds of the page, not counting your signature.

* BE BRIEF (FOR VOICEMAIL AND EMAIL):  If you leave a long voicemail, it sounds like a ramble by somebody who's unstable.  Just say who you are, where you're from, your approximate age, why you like Gg and why you think it shouldn't end/why you think the season finale is not enough.  Don't beat yourself up if you think you went on for too long, though, as your nervousness will likely screw with your head.  And be sure to thank the people you're contacting for their time and consideration.

* BE POLITE: I know that there's a lot of anger and sadness going on right now, but don't unleash any of it on the person that you're writing too (s/he may not even be responsible for what's happening to the show).  Just tell them why you like the show, the actors, the stories, how it affects you, why you think it should continue, etc.  If your letter is all tone and no substance, they won't read it.  Or maybe the first person who reads it won't pass it on to someone else at the studio or directly involved with the show.

* BE POLITE (Again):   DON'T mention salary issues because it's not our place to address them.  Some form of "I hope that you are still looking for a solution that results in the show going on" would IMO be a great way to sidestep that issue.

* ADD PAPER DAISIES TO YOUR LETTER:   Find a picture of a daisy, print and cut out lots of copies of them, send a dozen or two of them with your snail mail letter to the various contact addresses.  And when I mean cut out a lot of copies of them, cut out individual squares or rectangles of the pictures, whatever shape the picture is (cutting out the outline of the daisy over and over again would, of course, be Paris-level insane).  Enclose them in the letter when you fold it so that when the person has to open the letter, the paper daisies *have* to fall out.  One creative thing to put in the mix -- maybe sub out one of the daisies and insert a Great8 Mandate logo instead.

2)  SEND EMAIL OR VOICEMAIL

The CW's comment line is 1-818-977-6878.   It is voicemail and it often (but not always) fills up by early evening -- and appears to be full the entire weekend from whenever time on Fridays it fills up.

If you are going to send an email or leave a voice mail, that’s okay as a reinforcement of your Snail Mail, but DO NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL FLOOD ANY INDIVIDUAL ACTOR OR PERSON AT THE CW OR WARNERS WITH MULTIPLE VOICE MAILS OR E-MAILS ON THE SAME DAY.  It will do the exact opposite of what you intend because it's considered spamming and more or less harassment.[/i]  They want to hear from as many individuals as possible.  And Snail Mail is a better way to do it than either email or voicemail because it's a tangible representation of the viewership's sentiments while electronic forms of correspondence are more abstract (because you can't hold them in your hands) and therefore easy to forget.  And remember to BE POLITE AND POSITIVE.  They already know that we're all upset, we just need to reinforce our presence in terms of the sheer number of individuals contacting them.  Remember, once per day and that’s it, particularly for voicemail and email.

3) If you send mail to anyone other than Dawn Ostroff, Lauren and/or Alexis, I’m sure as heck not gonna try to discourage you, but please post the address for the management/agent team of each actor to this thread if/when you discover them.   I'm especially interested in office addresses for Kelly Bishop and Liza Weil so that anyone who wants to can send them thank-you letters due to their great warnings about the series season finale of the show.  Although I don't know the addresses for the management teams of any other actors but Lauren and Alexis, and I only know them because they were posted on page 1 of this very thread.  Wink   Just please make contacting Ms. Ostroff, Lauren and Alexis your first priority. If they get the mail, they are sure to contact everybody else involved, including Ostroff’s bosses at the CW’s corporate parent companies, CBS/Paramount and Warner Brothers, as well as the other actors.  (Or else they’ll hear it through the grapevine.)  NOTE: at this time, Alexis may be in the most need of notes of encouragement to continue the series.

4) Please send snail mail more than once a week. Two times a week is probably optimal.  Write something different each time, choose a different person each time -- a different aspect of what the show means to you, whatever.  Make it anything other than any other letter you've sent to them 'cause once they see an identical one, it registers as a form letter in their minds.

5) Please send your first or only snail mail of any given week by registered mail/return receipt.   It's more expensive than regular snail mail, but it means that someone has to sign for it and acknowledge the receipt, and perhaps they'll take the expense even more seriously than even if it were standard snail mail and thereby be more likely to read it.

6) And send them daisies.  Once per week, if you can afford it, twice a month, once a month.  A different person each time, rotating between Dawn, Lauren and Alexis -- and now, Amy Sherman-Palladino (yay!) and Peter Roth.

7) CONTACT ADVERTISERS:

Divine has set up a word document containing contact information regarding the various national advertisers who placed commercials in the series season finale.  The document can be downloaded at http://root.pcmasters.at/upload/files/2659036-List_of_Advertisers.doc  If you contact any of the advertisers, please follow the same rules as I list above and also keep in mind the following: 

* Please be sure to compliment them on their support of Gg, add that you like their product if you use it (but don't lie if you don't use it) and let them know about how pleased you are for the companies' support of Gg given Gg's continued high ratings, particularly in light of how terrible the ratings are of Veronica Mars.  Don't otherwise knock VM (it's a good show that, unfortunately has no potential whatsoever to grow in the ratings), but let them know something like, "If the CW is alienating the viewership by cancelling both the high-rated Gilmore Girls and the low-rated Veronica Mars (whose fanbase is probably a subset of Gilmore Girls’ fanbase), doesn't it make sense for you as an advertiser to demand that The CW keep Gilmore Girls in order to retrieve  the goodwill of that viewership and thereby make The CW a much better outlet for your product?" 

* Please, do NOT copy what I wrote word-for-word.  It's not that I'm withholding permission, it's just that letters that are written with the same wording are considered "astroturf," a type of spamming particular to letter-writing campaigns.  Speak/write from the heart about why you like the show/what the show means to you, what you know about what the ratings mean and that you would appreciate the advertisers' support since the networks unveil their new fall schedules to you advertisers next week.  As I said above, BE POLITE, BE ORIGINAL -- the advertisers want to know about your likes and dislikes as it helps them to decide where they're going to put their television advertising dollars.  It's okay to tell the advertisers that you're mad at the network, just don't do it in a way that even implies that you might be mad at the advertisers as the current cancelled state of the show is not their fault.  After all, they'd rather have the show with the higher ratings, y'know.

* NEW!  Write to this CW weblog at:  http://blogs.trb.com/network/cwsource/2007/05/rumorville_a_gilmore_girls_tv.html   .   It asks about how you feel about the news that Amy is interested in doing a 2-hour movie version of the show.  I managed to swing the conversation a little in one of my own posts to the blog page, asking everybody to not take wanting to see a season 8 as a given and instead say if they'd want to see a season 8 rather than *just* a movie.


  -- Rob

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« Reply #5721 on: May 31, 2007, 11:07:10 pm »


With that said, I just don't see season 8 happening at this point.  I'm basing my opinion on recent news and interviews, and also from Gilmore contacts I've made over the years.  There have been no indications by anyone or anything that season 8 is still in the cards.  I'm sorry. 

I kid with you when I say this, but I say, "And your point is . . .?"  Really, I don't think that anyone is or should be under the illusion that season 8 is happening at this point.  It isn't.  The point of continuing the campaign to the point of pushing for season 8 is that minds have been changed before.  Moreover the very nastily abrupt way that the show was cancelled just two weeks before the Upfronts I think gives us a little more leverage now than it did when Ausiello was first starting to report that conflicting signals were coming out of Gilmore Central.  You were very on top of it -- you did all that you possibly could with what little information we were all being given at the time.  Now that the cancellation has been announced and the finale aired, we're still on pace to expand the Mandate.  I really do think that the abrupt cancellation of the show has given us a little more leeway to press for the return of Gg as a midseason replacement.

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I know that some of you hold out hope for a miracle, or perhaps want to see the show as a mid-season replacement.  And to you I say, "Prove me wrong."  I don't mean that at all in an antagonistic manner; I'm saying, "Please, prove me wrong.  Nothing would make me happier."


Okay, then, gauntlet thrown!

Dance Celebrate Jester Clover Coffee Nod

  -- Rob

PS:  Certain plans are coming soon . . .

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Season 8:  Because, well, the TV schedule sucks without it.

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(I'm not counting the Welcome Post because it's too
long to combine with anything else) . . .

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if its not too late, some of my coworkers said i could add them

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Keep posting your names and as much of your choice of age, city and/or state.  Even if you've missed out on the first press release, Heather is going to keep on updating the list for future press releases.  So don't stop!

  -- Rob

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« Reply #5722 on: June 01, 2007, 12:42:22 am »

do I post the names here?Huh 

or should I email them to someone .....



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« Reply #5723 on: June 01, 2007, 12:44:44 am »

Alexis Bledel Interview

Gilmore Girl Moves to Another Small Town
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by Megan Cherkezian

Alexis Bledel knows she can't shake her lovably sweet character Rory so soon after the series ending of long-running Gilmore Girls — and she's not trying to. But she is excited to try new roles, like the quiet, calm-talking Kate Peterson in her latest film I'm Reed Fish (in theaters now), where she faces marriage and romantic turmoil, far from the fast-paced "Yale Daily News" and the hustle and bustle of Luke's Diner. TVGuide.com caught up with the Stars Hollow favorite for her thoughts on Rory's final moments and moving on after Gilmore.

TVGuide.com: How do you feel about Logan (Matt Czuchry) and Rory's breakup and how the series ended in general?
Alexis Bledel: I guess it's not what people might have expected as far as their relationship goes, but it's something that happens to a lot of people when they graduate from school and go off to start their lives elsewhere. I think it's a make-or-break [time] for a lot of relationships. I felt pretty strongly that I wanted my character to finish up somewhere that we would have liked to see her finish when the whole story started, because she was so driven and academic and I wanted to return to that in some ways. She did get pretty caught up in [the] relationship — in her relationships with guys in general, not that that's a bad thing — but it seemed to end on a strong note. She made a choice that was very true to herself.

TVGuide.com: Did you feel the job she got was sudden?
Bledel: Well, they needed something. She needed to get some kind of job, and I like that she didn't get hired for something right away. I hope it's not too auspicious a job for her to get right off the bat, but I guess she did have somebody she knew who hooked her up. Hopefully that makes a little bit of sense. But yeah, they needed for her to go off into the world in some way or another. I like that it was for Barack Obama's campaign.

TVGuide.com: Do you think 13 more episodes could have resolved the story lines any better?
Bledel: It was an organic ending for Rory to graduate from college, because it all started with trying to get her into prep school and figuring out how to pay for it because she had so much potential. For it to end this way felt good to me, because I think we would have been trying to come up with things if we had done more [episodes].

TVGuide.com: And you would have entered this whole other post-college territory.
Bledel: Yeah, and the relationship between Lorelai (Lauren Graham) and Luke (Scott Patterson) had been played out and needed [to be resolved] in some direction. Where it left off — kind of hopeful — I like that, too, because she has entertained all the possibilities with Rory's dad.

TVGuide.com: Yeah, it just lets fans fantasize.
Bledel: Right.

TVGuide.com: What will you miss most about playing Rory? The fast talking?
Bledel: [Laughs] No. I was certainly lucky to play a teenage character that was so academic and intelligent and unique from a lot of other characters on television, as far as teenagers go, but I'll be happy to play adults. If I don't get to play characters as unique as she is, then I'd miss that.

TVGuide.com: Is it important to you to break away from being known as Rory?
Bledel: I don't know how much it's possible to completely get away from it. I'm looking forward to playing different characters and seeing how far I can stretch, but I don't know that it's a good idea to do something just because it's different. I'm more concerned that the projects I'm involved with are strong material.

TVGuide.com: I watched I'm Reed Fish and it's really simple with this big message behind it. Why did you want to be in the film?
Bledel: It felt a little different from a lot of things I read, because it's a movie within a movie and I like the trick that happens in the middle that I don't really want to give away. The small town felt, in a way, like Stars Hollow; it's a very strong setting for a story to take place in. It's all-inclusive — it's a tiny little town and has all these unique characters.

TVGuide.com: And everybody knows everybody.
Bledel: And everybody knows everybody. That's why I liked it.

TVGuide.com: The movie-within-a-movie aspect surprised me, but it took on this whole new meaning, so it was a good twist.
Bledel: Oh, good. Yeah, that's what drew me to it.

TVGuide.com: Are you working on anything else?
Bledel: I'm hoping that a few independent projects come together, but nothing definite yet. I'm still reading stuff and seeing what else is going to come together.



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« Reply #5724 on: June 01, 2007, 01:54:32 am »

 
  I mean, just look at their homepage for all the nuttiness: http://www.nutsonline.com/jericho

It is just so easy for them so make donations and get their nuts sent.  If we had a way to make such simple donations like that for the daisies, we would actually be able to compete.  They also have plenty of "Save Jericho" shirts, and not to mention a live blog as well as videos of the nuts being delivered.

   Yes!  Things like that get attention.  People who've never heard of Jericho are talking about the nuts.  It's so attention grabbing.   That's why I think sending daisies is SO important.  In addition, I'm thinking it might be good to eventually have a press release that focuses just on the daisy campaign.   The journalistic types who receive press releases are notoriously ADD.   Hit them with one big thing and you've got their attention.   Just a couple of thoughts....  Smiley   
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« Reply #5725 on: June 01, 2007, 01:58:02 am »

MAILING TOMORROW

Tomorrow I will be mailing four banners and 60 media packets with the press release.
I will update the name list tonight.

I am in desperate need of money to spend, folks.  I've got almost enough, but I'm short about $20.  PLEASE if you have Pay Pal, USE IT to send me a dollar or two.  I'm a college kid, so whatever we don't have money for ... just won't get sent until we do. Sad

   Oh!   I can send something.  I've been gone for a couple of days.  Can you PM me the particulars?
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« Reply #5726 on: June 01, 2007, 02:17:27 am »

From the TVG interview with Alexis


TVGuide.com: Do you think 13 more episodes could have resolved the story lines any better?
Bledel: It was an organic ending for Rory to graduate from college, because it all started with trying to get her into prep school and figuring out how to pay for it because she had so much potential. For it to end this way felt good to me, because I think we would have been trying to come up with things if we had done more [episodes].

TVGuide.com: And you would have entered this whole other post-college territory.
Bledel: Yeah, and the relationship between Lorelai (Lauren Graham) and Luke (Scott Patterson) had been played out and needed [to be resolved] in some direction. Where it left off — kind of hopeful — I like that, too, because she has entertained all the possibilities with Rory's dad.

There's probably no way to be truly polite about it (no matter how much I want to be), but IMO, while Alexis understands her character, she clearly doesn't understand the show.  It's not about whether or not Lor has entertained/exhausted all the possibilities with Rory's dad, it's about whether or not Lor and Rory can have relationships as close as they have with each other with *other people* instead.  Rory had a mature romantic relationship with Logan that ended when Logan made the untenable demand of asking her to give up her career for him.  Okay ,fine, so when's she going to meet her Doyle?   Meanwhile, Lor and Luke's relationship didn't even resolve -- and IMO Alexis's lack of recognition that Lor and Luke's storyline hadn't resolved therefore means, IMO, that she's making it worse for herself by commenting on it.  Lor and Luke's relationship had just barely begun again without coming even close to answering the question of how they'll handle any more fights with each other -- have they *really* learned how to *be* with each other and take the bad *with* the good.  The season finale isn't a hopeful ending, it's not an ending of anything at all other than Rory's education at Yale.

This also begs the question of whether Rory's story has reached an organic resolution or not.  For a story based on parallel plotting (including contrapuntal plotting), BOTH storylines MUST resolve because it's a compare and contrast premise.  If the show is about BOTH Lorelai AND Rory and only Rory's storyline has reached an organic *possible* resolution, it's not really an organic resolution *because Lorelai's storyline HAS NOT ALSO had the organic resolution that Rory's has had and therefore no comparison between where Rory's story ostensibly "ends" and where Lorelai's story is clearly amputated can be made.*  Lorelai's story has essentially been butchered, cut off right at the knees.  Which implicitly and strongly indicates that RORY'S storyline has likewise been butchered in some way, that her graduation ISN'T supposed to be the end of her storyline on the show.  Uh-oh.

Hmm . . . a show based on Parent-Child relationships "ends" with the storyline of a school commencement rather than with something more primally, directly about parent-child relationships -- such as, oh, "what has Rory learned about parenting from Lorelai and how can we not see that until she's put to the test of being a parent herself in some way?"  

No, I'm not saying that the show needs to end five years from now, with Rory bringing up a kid of her own and pregnant with another one on the way-- I'm saying that the show needs to demonstrate what Rory has learned about being a parent by showing her being a *real* parent herself to someone.  Doesn't have to be a biological child, could be just Rory in some sort of a longterm parental situation -- the show has several existing characters and plot threads to supply opportunites for Rory to be put to the test of being a real parent to someone, rather than be the pretend parent she was when Lorelai was roleplaying with Rory in an attempt to train her to be more assertive and independent.  And hmm . . . over there in Lorelailand, there's the open question of whether or not Lorelai will get to be a parent a second time around and if she'll be just as good a parent the second time around when she's got a romantic partner to *also* have to deal with this second time around.  Those storylines need to be addressed *much* further before the characters can be left to even an "open" ending, rather than this amputation that a good season finale has undeservedly become.

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Bledel: Right.

That's called a leading question.  And it's a dishonest thing for a reporter to do, say what the actor wants to say so that she doesn't have to say it directly, thinking that it's going to let her dodge responsibility for it when in reality it magnifies -- *doubles* the damage.  "Okay, let's rip out the last 100 pages of the book 'cause it's just sooooo great to let the fans fantasize about what happened even though the story clearly isn't over."  

Somebody needs to tell her peeps to not let the reporters do her any favors, because encouraging a shy person like Alexis to give a passive-aggressive response like that one just makes her look *bad.*  Nevermind that Alexis had already made the mistake of revealing that she doesn't understand the context of or importance of Lor and Luke's relationship within the overall premise of Lor and Rory's relationship with each other, the faux-coziness that the TVG writer is attempting to create here just IMO flat-out sabotages everything Alexis was trying to accomplish here regarding Reed Fish and any hopes that she had that softening the blow of the Gg cancellation would help her to promote Reed Fish.  Rather than soften the blow, they've made it worse.

  -- Rob

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« Reply #5727 on: June 01, 2007, 07:18:35 am »


Hmm . . . a show based on Parent-Child relationships "ends" with the storyline of a school commencement rather than with something more primally, directly about parent-child relationships -- such as, oh, "what has Rory learned about parenting from Lorelai and how can we not see that until she's put to the test of being a parent herself in some way?"  

  -- Rob

Come on, Rory was about COLLEGE and JOURNALISM since day one. And what's with the parenting stuff for Rory? she's 22 damn it.

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« Reply #5728 on: June 01, 2007, 07:49:05 am »

I sent Heidi a Personal Message about this but haven't gotten a reply yet. I suggested another round of the Daisy Campaign. You know, using PayPal to collect enough money to send one (or two or three or...) very big bouquet(s). And maybe someone other than Heidi could organize it this time since she's done so much already.

I've put off writing this post for a while now, for fear of it making me extremely unpopular, but I'm going to bite the bullet and hope that I still have my ORG Forum friends when all is said and done.

To begin, I feel the need to say that I really, really (really) wanted season 8.  The Great8Mandate was born in February; back when season 8 wasn't on anyone's radar.  Back when you'd mention "Gilmore Girls season 8" to entertainment reporters and they'd laugh at the absurdity.  From early February until mid-May I gave 110% to this campaign.  At one point I was devoting nearly six hours a day to the site and Great8Mandate.  I exhausted every avenue I could think of to try and make the Great8Mandate a success ... and as we all know, we came so very close.

This is an incomplete list, but look at all we accomplished.  The Great8Mandate was mentioned on E! Online, TVGuide.com, Zap2it.com, BuddyTV.com, Courant.com (the Hartford Courant newspaper), the L.A. Daily News (both in print and online), About.com, ContraCostaTimes.com, etc.  And let's not forget the big one ... we won the E! Online 'Save One Show' poll.  We had the most votes.  We won.   

I'm certainly not trying to take credit for all the accomplishments of the campaign (because this truly was a community effort); I only want to reiterate my love for the show and support for an additional season. 

With that said, I just don't see season 8 happening at this point.  I'm basing my opinion on recent news and interviews, and also from Gilmore contacts I've made over the years.  There have been no indications by anyone or anything that season 8 is still in the cards.  I'm sorry.

I know that some of you hold out hope for a miracle, or perhaps want to see the show as a mid-season replacement.  And to you I say, "Prove me wrong."  I don't mean that at all in an antagonistic manner; I'm saying, "Please, prove me wrong.  Nothing would make me happier."

What will become of the Great8Mandate?  I hope it continues to thrive.  For season 8 supporters, please mandate, mandate, mandate.  If you believe in season 8 and have the dedication and passion to try and turn the tides, keep going.  Assuming anyone wants my advice or input, I'd be happy to offer assistance.

As for me, I'm going to focus my efforts on supporting a Gilmore Girls movie.  Even though I won't be campaigning for season 8, I'm still going to use the moniker Great8Mandate as it has been a great buzzword for our cause (CW and Warner Bros. executives/public relations people are VERY familiar with the campaign).  While season 8 might be out of the question, I still think the term applies to the overall goal.

To answer the original question ... am I willing to organize another Daisy Campaign?  No, not at this time.  Not for season 8.  However, a couple months from now will I be willing to organize another Daisy Campaign directed at Amy Sherman-Palladino to remind her that she has a community of fans waiting for a Gilmore movie ... absolutely.

Hopefully I haven't lost too many friends with this post.  I'm only sharing my own thoughts and opinions.  In the coming days and weeks I'll be detailing more of what I have in mind for the Great8Mandate campaign -- movie edition.

~Heidi 

You have echoed my thoughts entirely. I would be thrilled with a two hour movie that everyone was excited doing with Amy rather than a few more episodes that the actors really didn't have their hearts into. That said, I  also know that sometimes the least expected things happen and there are those who would say many in hollywood can be fickle, known to frequently change their mind if it suits them.
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« Reply #5729 on: June 01, 2007, 07:59:57 am »


Hmm . . . a show based on Parent-Child relationships "ends" with the storyline of a school commencement rather than with something more primally, directly about parent-child relationships -- such as, oh, "what has Rory learned about parenting from Lorelai and how can we not see that until she's put to the test of being a parent herself in some way?"  

  -- Rob

Come on, Rory was about COLLEGE and JOURNALISM since day one. And what's with the parenting stuff for Rory? she's 22 damn it.



I'm 21 and my parents are still deeply involved in my life.  I think that is the challenge of a parent-child relationship -- going from child, to teenager, to young-adult to adult.  I think all of us here would be interested to see how those things pan out -- how has what she's learned from Lorelai going to penetrate into her real life?

And please, try and keep it to a positive.  If you don't like our thread, that's cool, but please don't bring us down. Smiley

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