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« Reply #5085 on: May 17, 2007, 03:09:46 pm »

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« Reply #5086 on: May 17, 2007, 03:27:38 pm »

Hey guys!! Remember to call 1-818-977-6878 or log onto www.cwtv.com go into luonge area right away!!!! Let the CW know where we stand in their mistake to end Gilmore girls!! You can leave a message if you call (it is a recording) and tell them how upset U R and how you plan to no longer watch CW!!!!

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« Reply #5087 on: May 17, 2007, 03:31:36 pm »

It was full about 30 minutes ago.
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« Reply #5088 on: May 17, 2007, 03:32:02 pm »

I just tried to leave a message for the CW Comment Box, and it is full. =]]  Good Work Guys, hopefully most of that is Gilmore fans.  They need to get it impressed in their head that it is Gilmore or Bust.  
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« Reply #5089 on: May 17, 2007, 03:39:14 pm »

Ugh, first I was sad....now mad! I'm 27, and I don't know what she means by "young adult",  but I never wasted a second of my precious time with Beauty and the Geek.  I'm insulted; Lauren Graham should be insulted... I don't even get it... and I kinda thought they were gonna give VM another shot. Ugh... I'm calling that comment line AGAIN... the # is in my sig...

ok, so now I realize that I guess I'm not a 'young adult' anymore-- but why don't they care that ADULTS 25-40 (whatever) love this show too?! I think that should be even more important than teenagers (no offense, gals, love ya!) because we have the money to buy the DVDs, etc....

haha no offence taken! I totally agree though, why would they want to appeal just to younger viewers? Gilmore Girls appeals to both adults and young adults which is why they are #2 on the network! Gilmore Girls makes so much money because mothers are watching it with their kids. I can't see mothers sitting there with their kids watching beauty and the geek! Why would they want a show that appeals only to half of the worlds generation?! Why not a show that appeals to everyone?! I'm 14 years old and I started watching when I was 11-12, I am a young viewer and am totally addicted to Gilmore Girls!! I just can't watch GG on The CW cause the network is cheap and won't air everywhere! Only people with loads of money who can afford a satilite get it. Thats another thing, its the adults with all the money paying for satilites to get The CW channel, I highly doubt parents are going to waste money on a satilite just so that their kids can watch The CW's beauty and the geek!
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« Reply #5090 on: May 17, 2007, 03:48:58 pm »

yay!!!! Couldnt leave a comment, it was full!!!!! Has lauren or alexis did any interviews? (besides her being on ellen)
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« Reply #5091 on: May 17, 2007, 03:53:40 pm »

I just tried to leave a message for the CW Comment Box, and it is full. =]]  Good Work Guys, hopefully most of that is Gilmore fans.  They need to get it impressed in there head that it is Gilmore or Bust.  

It's probably also Veronica Mars fans because they were holding out hope until today, but if the ratings proportions are any indication of the proportion of callers, then it was around 2 Gg callers for every 1 VM caller.  Perhaps a little closer since the VM news is new.  Maybe 1.75 Gg callers to 1.25 VM callers. Still, a lot of Gg viewers that didn't know about Gg had to have called in today.

BTW, I called the line early this afternoon as soon as I heard Ostroff's comments about Gg at the Upfronts.

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« Reply #5092 on: May 17, 2007, 03:55:11 pm »

go_clo: you are only 14? It is so refreshing to see someone your age respect spelling and grammar on the internet, lol! You seem like the very best of what GG brings out in its youg fans; not everyone your age is only hooked on the Real World or whatever inappropriate and/or intellect-lacking program most teenagers watch... *random prettystick* for you!

And, yes! The comment line is full again! What's that Paul guy's # again?! I gotta put that one in my sig too! There should be an evil grin emoticon...
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« Reply #5093 on: May 17, 2007, 04:00:38 pm »

I just tried to leave a message for the CW Comment Box, and it is full. =]]  Good Work Guys, hopefully most of that is Gilmore fans.  They need to get it impressed in there head that it is Gilmore or Bust.  

It's probably also Veronica Mars fans because they were holding out hope until today, but if the ratings proportions are any indication of the proportion of callers, then it was around 2 Gg callers for every 1 VM caller.  Perhaps a little closer since the VM news is new.  Maybe 1.75 Gg callers to 1.25 VM callers. Still, a lot of Gg viewers that didn't know about Gg had to have called in today.

BTW, I called the line early this afternoon as soon as I heard Ostroff's comments about Gg at the Upfronts.

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« Reply #5094 on: May 17, 2007, 04:07:53 pm »

For those of you who are new to the Great 8 Mandate Thread, Welcome!  The energy that everyone is feeling is almost tangible to me and I know that a lot of you are wondering what you can do to help try to convince the CW to uncancel Gilmore Girls.  This post is about voicemail, email and snail mail.  Here’s what you can do:

1)  SEND SNAIL MAIL.

Handwriting is fine if your penmanship is good because it's such a personal form of communication.  Otherwise, typing and signing and mailing by snail mail is the single BEST way to contact them.  They expect to be deluged with email and voicemail and that helps as far as it goes, but the amount of effort that it takes to write/type a letter on paper and send it in an envelope always  makes a bigger impression than email and voicemail and the like.  There's a rule of thumb that floats about in various media industries that every individual piece of correspondence that's written on paper and delivered by mail represents the sentiments of at least 7 other people.  So if literally tens of thousands of pieces of snail mail are received, that's going to make a MUCH bigger impact on them than electronic forms of mail.

There are various addresses you can send your correspondence to, which are posted on page 1 of the thread, but IMO, the people who have the most potential to help are IMO, Lauren, Alexis and the CW’s President of Entertainment, Dawn Ostroff, who is the nexus of all network realities at the CW.  They can be contacted at the following addresses:

Ms. Dawn Ostroff, President of Entertainment
The CW Television Network
4000 Warner Blvd., Bldg 168
Burbank, CA 91522-0002

Lauren Graham
c/o John Carrabino Management
100 North Crescent Dr.
G-400
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Alexis Bledel
c/o Flutie Entertainment
6500 Wilshire Blvd
Suite 2240
Los Angeles, CA 90048

Please write to Lauren and Alexis at these addresses and not at the Gg offices on the Warner lot.  These are their agent/manager teams and maybe the agent or manager will see the mail and get the idea that all three should be schmoozed back to the bargaining table.

As the series season finale has passed and the Upfronts are upon us, email and voicemail can become handier than Snail Mail, but don't discount Snail Mail as the network can always change its mind even after the Upfronts.  Snail Mail will become even more important after the Upfronts have been announced, so I have a few tips/suggestions to help make you make your letters, voicemail and email as effective as possible:

* BE BRIEF.  Keep the length of your letter down to ONE side of ONE page, double space it and use a simple 10 or 12-point Times font.  (Arial font is hard to read.)   If your letter goes on for only one or two more lines beyond a page, don't sweat it, but the longer the letter is, the less of it they'll read before they move on to the next one.  Double-spacing is the exact opposite in print as it is online -- it's much  easier to read on paper than single spacing is -- and again, the need to be as brief as possible will make you more concise and to-the-point.  Conversely, single spacing will make you look a little wacky, especially if you go on for more than one page.

* BE BRIEF (AGAIN):  If you must single-space to get all you want on one page, skip a line between each paragraph as that will help maximize readability.  But definitely do not go over one side of one page at all.  And I'd suggest if you're going to do single-spacing your message should take up no more than 2/3rds of the page, not counting your signature.

* BE BRIEF (FOR VOICEMAIL AND EMAIL):  If you leave a long voicemail, it sounds like a ramble by somebody who's unstable.  Just say who you are, where you're from, your approximate age, why you like Gg and why you think it shouldn't end/why you think the season finale is not enough.  And thank them for their time.

* BE POLITE. I know that there's a lot of anger and sadness going on right now, but don't unleash any of it on the person that you're writing too (s/he may not even be responsible for what's happening to the show).  Just tell them why you like the show, the actors, the stories, how it affects you, why you think it should continue, etc.  If your letter is all tone and no substance, they won't read it.  Or maybe the first person who reads it won't pass it on to someone else at the studio or directly involved with the show.

* BE POLITE (Again):  DON'T mention the salary issues because it's not our place to address them.  Some form of "I hope that you are still looking for a solution that results in the show going on" would IMO be a great way to sidestep that issue.

2)  If you are going to send an email or leave a voice mail, that’s okay as a reinforcement of your Snail Mail, but DO NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL FLOOD ANY INDIVIDUAL ACTOR OR PERSON AT THE CW OR WARNERS WITH MULTIPLE VOICE MAILS OR E-MAILS ON THE SAME DAY.  It will do the exact opposite of what you intend because it's considered spamming and more or less harrassment.[/i]  They want to hear from as many individuals as possible.  And Snail Mail is a better way to do it than either email or voicemail because it's a tangible representation of the viewership's sentiments while electronic forms of correspondence are more abstract (because you can't hold them in your hands) and therefore easy to forget.  And remember to BE POLITE AND POSITIVE.  They already know that we're all upset, we just need to reinforce our presence in terms of the sheer number of individuals contacting them.  Remember, once per day and that’s it, particularly for voicemail and email.

3) If you send mail to anyone other than Dawn Ostroff, Lauren and/or Alexis, I’m sure as heck not gonna try to discourage you.  Just please make contacting Ms. Ostroff, Lauren and Alexis your first priority.  If they get the mail, they are sure to contact everybody else involved, including Ostroff’s bosses at the CW’s corporate parent companies, CBS/Paramount and Warner Brothers, as well as the other actors.  (Or else they’ll hear it through the grapevine.)  NOTE: at this time, Alexis may be in the most need of notes of encouragement to continue the series.

4) And send them daisies.


BONUS ALERT:  Divine has set up a word document that can be downloaded at http://root.pcmasters.at/upload/files/2659036-List_of_Advertisers.doc  If you contact any of them, please follow the same rules as I list above and also keep in mind the following: 

Please be sure to compliment them on their support of Gg, add that you like their product if you use it (but don't lie if you don't use it) and let them know about how pleased you are for the companies' support of Gg given Gg's continued high ratings, particularly in light of how terrible the ratings are of Veronica Mars.  Don't otherwise knock VM (it's a good show that, unfortunately has no potential whatsoever to grow in the ratings), but let them know something like, "If the CW is alienating the viewership by cancelling both the high-rated Gilmore Girls and the low-rated Veronica Mars (whose fanbase is probably a subset of Gilmore Girls’ fanbase), doesn't it make sense for you as an advertiser to demand that The CW keep Gilmore Girls in order to retrieve  the goodwill of that viewership and thereby make The CW a much better outlet for your product?" 

BTW, do NOT copy what I wrote word-for-word.  It's not that I'm withholding permission, it's just that letters that are written with the same wording are considered astroturf, a type of spamming particular to letter-writing campaigns.  Speak/write from the heart about why you like the show/what the show means to you, what you know about what the ratings mean and that you would appreciate the advertisers' support since the networks unveil their new fall schedules to you advertisers next week.  As I said above, BE POLITE, BE ORIGINAL -- the advertisers want to know about your likes and dislikes as it helps them to decide where they're going to put their television advertising dollars.  It's okay to tell the advertisers that you're mad at the network, just don't do it in a way that even implies that you might be mad at the advertisers as the current cancelled state of the show is not their fault.  After all, they'd rather have the show with the higher ratings, y'know.

  -- Rob

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« Reply #5095 on: May 17, 2007, 04:52:07 pm »

Hey guys -- comment line still full! Smiley

SO PROUD!  Keep up the fantastic work!
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« Reply #5096 on: May 17, 2007, 05:30:35 pm »

Hey guys i just went into savemyshow it is now up ot 93%. Great Guns at this speed? they will have to take notice.
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« Reply #5097 on: May 17, 2007, 05:59:21 pm »

For those of you who are new to the Great 8 Mandate Thread, Welcome!  The energy that everyone is feeling is almost tangible to me and I know that a lot of you are wondering what you can do to help try to convince the CW to uncancel Gilmore Girls.  This post is about voicemail, email and snail mail.  Here’s what you can do:

1)  SEND SNAIL MAIL.

Handwriting is fine if your penmanship is good because it's such a personal form of communication.  Otherwise, typing and signing and mailing by snail mail is the single BEST way to contact them.  They expect to be deluged with email and voicemail and that helps as far as it goes, but the amount of effort that it takes to write/type a letter on paper and send it in an envelope always  makes a bigger impression than email and voicemail and the like.  There's a rule of thumb that floats about in various media industries that every individual piece of correspondence that's written on paper and delivered by mail represents the sentiments of at least 7 other people.  So if literally tens of thousands of pieces of snail mail are received, that's going to make a MUCH bigger impact on them than electronic forms of mail.

There are various addresses you can send your correspondence to, which are posted on page 1 of the thread, but IMO, the people who have the most potential to help are IMO, Lauren, Alexis and the CW’s President of Entertainment, Dawn Ostroff, who is the nexus of all network realities at the CW.  They can be contacted at the following addresses:

Ms. Dawn Ostroff, President of Entertainment
The CW Television Network
4000 Warner Blvd., Bldg 168
Burbank, CA 91522-0002

Lauren Graham
c/o John Carrabino Management
100 North Crescent Dr.
G-400
Beverly Hills, CA 90210

Alexis Bledel
c/o Flutie Entertainment
6500 Wilshire Blvd
Suite 2240
Los Angeles, CA 90048

Please write to Lauren and Alexis at these addresses and not at the Gg offices on the Warner lot.  These are their agent/manager teams and maybe the agent or manager will see the mail and get the idea that all three should be schmoozed back to the bargaining table.

As the series season finale has passed and the Upfronts are upon us, email and voicemail can become handier than Snail Mail, but don't discount Snail Mail as the network can always change its mind even after the Upfronts.  Snail Mail will become even more important after the Upfronts have been announced, so I have a few tips/suggestions to help make you make your letters, voicemail and email as effective as possible:

* BE BRIEF.  Keep the length of your letter down to ONE side of ONE page, double space it and use a simple 10 or 12-point Times font.  (Arial font is hard to read.)   If your letter goes on for only one or two more lines beyond a page, don't sweat it, but the longer the letter is, the less of it they'll read before they move on to the next one.  Double-spacing is the exact opposite in print as it is online -- it's much  easier to read on paper than single spacing is -- and again, the need to be as brief as possible will make you more concise and to-the-point.  Conversely, single spacing will make you look a little wacky, especially if you go on for more than one page.

* BE BRIEF (AGAIN):  If you must single-space to get all you want on one page, skip a line between each paragraph as that will help maximize readability.  But definitely do not go over one side of one page at all.  And I'd suggest if you're going to do single-spacing your message should take up no more than 2/3rds of the page, not counting your signature.

* BE BRIEF (FOR VOICEMAIL AND EMAIL):  If you leave a long voicemail, it sounds like a ramble by somebody who's unstable.  Just say who you are, where you're from, your approximate age, why you like Gg and why you think it shouldn't end/why you think the season finale is not enough.  And thank them for their time.

* BE POLITE. I know that there's a lot of anger and sadness going on right now, but don't unleash any of it on the person that you're writing too (s/he may not even be responsible for what's happening to the show).  Just tell them why you like the show, the actors, the stories, how it affects you, why you think it should continue, etc.  If your letter is all tone and no substance, they won't read it.  Or maybe the first person who reads it won't pass it on to someone else at the studio or directly involved with the show.

* BE POLITE (Again):  DON'T mention the salary issues because it's not our place to address them.  Some form of "I hope that you are still looking for a solution that results in the show going on" would IMO be a great way to sidestep that issue.

2)  If you are going to send an email or leave a voice mail, that’s okay as a reinforcement of your Snail Mail, but DO NOT AS AN INDIVIDUAL FLOOD ANY INDIVIDUAL ACTOR OR PERSON AT THE CW OR WARNERS WITH MULTIPLE VOICE MAILS OR E-MAILS ON THE SAME DAY.  It will do the exact opposite of what you intend because it's considered spamming and more or less harrassment.[/i]  They want to hear from as many individuals as possible.  And Snail Mail is a better way to do it than either email or voicemail because it's a tangible representation of the viewership's sentiments while electronic forms of correspondence are more abstract (because you can't hold them in your hands) and therefore easy to forget.  And remember to BE POLITE AND POSITIVE.  They already know that we're all upset, we just need to reinforce our presence in terms of the sheer number of individuals contacting them.  Remember, once per day and that’s it, particularly for voicemail and email.

3) If you send mail to anyone other than Dawn Ostroff, Lauren and/or Alexis, I’m sure as heck not gonna try to discourage you.  Just please make contacting Ms. Ostroff, Lauren and Alexis your first priority.  If they get the mail, they are sure to contact everybody else involved, including Ostroff’s bosses at the CW’s corporate parent companies, CBS/Paramount and Warner Brothers, as well as the other actors.  (Or else they’ll hear it through the grapevine.)  NOTE: at this time, Alexis may be in the most need of notes of encouragement to continue the series.

4) And send them daisies.


BONUS ALERT:  Divine has set up a word document that can be downloaded at http://root.pcmasters.at/upload/files/2659036-List_of_Advertisers.doc  If you contact any of them, please follow the same rules as I list above and also keep in mind the following: 

Please be sure to compliment them on their support of Gg, add that you like their product if you use it (but don't lie if you don't use it) and let them know about how pleased you are for the companies' support of Gg given Gg's continued high ratings, particularly in light of how terrible the ratings are of Veronica Mars.  Don't otherwise knock VM (it's a good show that, unfortunately has no potential whatsoever to grow in the ratings), but let them know something like, "If the CW is alienating the viewership by cancelling both the high-rated Gilmore Girls and the low-rated Veronica Mars (whose fanbase is probably a subset of Gilmore Girls’ fanbase), doesn't it make sense for you as an advertiser to demand that The CW keep Gilmore Girls in order to retrieve  the goodwill of that viewership and thereby make The CW a much better outlet for your product?" 

BTW, do NOT copy what I wrote word-for-word.  It's not that I'm withholding permission, it's just that letters that are written with the same wording are considered astroturf, a type of spamming particular to letter-writing campaigns.  Speak/write from the heart about why you like the show/what the show means to you, what you know about what the ratings mean and that you would appreciate the advertisers' support since the networks unveil their new fall schedules to you advertisers next week.  As I said above, BE POLITE, BE ORIGINAL -- the advertisers want to know about your likes and dislikes as it helps them to decide where they're going to put their television advertising dollars.  It's okay to tell the advertisers that you're mad at the network, just don't do it in a way that even implies that you might be mad at the advertisers as the current cancelled state of the show is not their fault.  After all, they'd rather have the show with the higher ratings, y'know.

  -- Rob

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« Reply #5098 on: May 17, 2007, 06:24:14 pm »

done some more voting on savemyshow. it is now over 8100 votes, still 93% though. Lets keep it up and reach 10000 votes? im going back to vote more now. 
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« Reply #5099 on: May 17, 2007, 06:30:37 pm »

I'm having trouble at this point expressing just how ANGRY I am.

I find it unfathomable that the CW and Dawn Ostroff have cancelled not only Gilmore Girls, but now the one show that I felt came anywhere NEAR Gilmore Girls in terms of quality - Veronica Mars.

There just aren't WORDS to tell you how frustrating, how appalling, how incomprehensible this whole thought process of the CW's has been (see, I'm trying and the words come out big, complicated and confusing).

I'm in Australia, and have just gone out and bought enough airmail stamps to send snail mail to the CW about both Gilmore Girls and Veronica.  Because I'll be DANMED if the CW expects that they can IGNORE the fans long enough that we'll just go away.

NOW THAT THE TWO BEST SHOWS ON TV HAVE BEEN CANCELLED, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON TV TO DISTRACT ME FROM WRITING LETTERS.

Morons.  They're all morons.
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