7.09 - Knit, People, Knit!

[lessa]

But really, April, NM is a great place... there's more to it than "the desert."

Amen, sister.  I was a little off-put that April described New Mexico as pretty much a wasteland.  As a former NM resident I found the state to be a great place to live.  Albuquerque and Santa Fe are very bohemian and would suit Anna's personality just great. It wasn't surprising that Anna said she was brought up there. Of course coming from a little girl's perspective, I can understand why she would be upset.

I happen to be a fan of NM, too, but I love the "just" desert part.
I'm not surprised April isn't ready for the balloons at Red Rock, though, she's a teenager who's moving date is ASAP. She's had no time to think about it or get used to the idea.

I was a little surprised at Anna's defensive assertions. The "We need to talk about plans before you make them behind my back with my daughter who's already angry about the move" part made sense, but after her whole "permanent fixture" speech when Luke started getting cold feet about bonding with April, you'd think she would be a little more committed to keeping Luke in April's life.

[GilmoreGal16]

Okay it was a good episode and I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel with this whole Lor and Luke thing. Thank Goodness!! Anyways I was watching some old episode of the GG and the one right before the Havard Road trip, where Luke is talking about Marriage. He says that it could be good if you can stand the other person and they don't dress you or make you eat French food. Haha I had to laugh, Chris orders food for Lor at the French resturant therefore making her eat it and in this episode Lor dresses him for is man date. She would have never done that with Luke. It is funny to see how much Luke charecter has grown and Lor has almost stepped back. She loved the town and know it seems that she is not appart of it. And I think that it is funny that her parents by chris and Lor a painting, while they bought Luke and Lor a house, which one do you think they thought would work out!

[Nov78]

It is funny to see how much Luke charecter has grown and Lor has almost stepped back. She loved the town and know it seems that she is not appart of it. And I think that it is funny that her parents by chris and Lor a painting, while they bought Luke and Lor a house, which one do you think they thought would work out!

We know that Richard and Emily are thrilled about Lorelai being with Chris, so I don't think the wedding gift reflects their relative faith in one relationship over another.  I think it's that they know that Chris is rich, so why would they bother with buying them a house or another such extravagant gift?  They probably (incorrectly) assumed Luke couldn't afford a house.  Of course for all we know the lovely "Gorilla Girl" cost nearly as much as a house.  There's no accouting for taste in art!  I might also point out that the Gilmores are throwing them a wedding party, which is expensive too.

I also have to disagree with you on the comment about Luke growing and Lorelai regressing.  So far as I could tell, he totally regressed last season in the entire way he handled the April thing.  I was particularly disgusted with how he took Anna's side over Lorelai's regarding the party.  I never saw him as being the mature one in the relationship.  Quite the contrary -- he seemed to have no clue that an adult relationship means sharing important news with your partner, like "surprise, I have a daughter", and not compartmentalizing parts of your life from your partner.  Finally I saw some signs of a backbone from Luke in this week's episode when he stood up to Anna.  It was about time!  But in terms of his relationship with Lorelai, it was too little, too late.  He should have defended Lorelai to Anna after the party incident.  I really think that was the turning point, when Lorelai realized he wasn't capable of including her fully in his life.

I think Lorelai and Chris have a much more mature relationship.  It took him 2 days to share the letter from Sherry, while it took Luke 2 months to tell about April.  Granted Chris got a little upset when Lorelai voiced her opinion about sending Gigi to Paris, but they had it out and made up within 1 hour.  To me, that's a much more open, mature relationship.  It's nice to see that Lorelai can be herself with Chris and express her opinions, unlike with Luke when she had to repress so much about herself. 

[lessa]

That's an interesting point about the painting vs. the house. Emily chose the house for Luke and Lorelai to start a family in, but whether Christopher wants more children is a topic shrouded in mystery. She probably mistakenly assumes that because they are a wealthy couple instead of a comfortable couple they would be thinking of their art collection instead of future progeny.

Or maybe, in a rare fit of sensitivity, Emily realized that offering them the house she picked out for a wedding to Luke would hurt Lorelai's feelings or remind her of him somehow. It seems unlikely, I know, but Emily Post probably covers it...

Luke's idea of marriage must have changed somewhat, because last we saw, he'd taken to wearing turtlenecks when he went out with Lorelai. Her dressing him was a cornerstone of their friendship, and she didn't seem to hesitate when they were dating, even after the discovery of April. (I'm referring to the clothes she got him for Rachel's birthday dinner and April's Philadelphia trip, respectively.)

[laurla205]

That's an interesting point about the painting vs. the house. Emily chose the house for Luke and Lorelai to start a family in, but whether Christopher wants more children is a topic shrouded in mystery. She probably mistakenly assumes that because they are a wealthy couple instead of a comfortable couple they would be thinking of their art collection instead of future progeny.

Or maybe, in a rare fit of sensitivity, Emily realized that offering them the house she picked out for a wedding to Luke would hurt Lorelai's feelings or remind her of him somehow. It seems unlikely, I know, but Emily Post probably covers it...

I was wondering about this too.  I thought maybe it was actually kind of a shot at the two of them for eloping and then of course the way Lorelai informed them of it. 

[Nov78]

I was wondering about this too. I thought maybe it was actually kind of a shot at the two of them for eloping and then of course the way Lorelai informed them of it.

I'm not quite sure on that one either.  I was thinking originally that Emily got such an ugly painting because she was mad at Lorelai for the answering machine message.  However, Emily really seemed to sincerely believe it was a worthwhile piece of art, unless Emily is such a good actress. (Of course I'm referring to Emily the character's acting abilities, not Kelly Bishop,  who is a great actress.)  I think she would have definitely gotten her digs in about the horrid painting to Lorelai if she were buying it as a punishment.  Sublety is not Emily's thing.   But it is possible that they might have gotten a less generous present than they would have, because they were mad. 

This is from a few pages back, but I just wanted to add a comment...

Does no one else think that the towns folk were ok with Christopher paying for the rest of the bridge?  No one seemed upset. As a matter of fact, everyone seemed relieved to be able to do something else other than knit.  I doubt the town is not going to accept him for a kind gesture.  If anything, it annoyed Lorelai more than anyone else.

I totally agree with you.  I think the town was totally ok with Chris paying.  It was only Lorelai who wanted to keep on knitting, but she's one of the more enthusiastic Starrs Hollow resident about these things.  I think everyone else was thrilled to go to the movies and to get out of the cold.  I mean they got to have the fun of knitting for several hours and got their bridge, so I think they were good.  I guess if Chris understood Starrs Hollow better, he might have waited until the end of the knit-a-thon and then bridged the gap (pardon my terrible pun) for the remaining funding.  The gesture would have worked better that way.  But he's a newcomer and doesn't understand the zaniness that is Starrs Hollow.  Keep in mind that we viewers have been watching the town for 7 years, and have a much better understanding of it than he does.  He certainly did what he did out of good intentions, when he heard how upset the people were that they wouldn't meet their fundraising goal.

[x_ch0c0]

Sorry to interupt but do you guys know what Marty said to Rory that made her uncomfortable? I couldn't hear cause my mom was talking to me. lol

[geryg]

Sorry to interupt but do you guys know what Marty said to Rory that made her uncomfortable? I couldn't hear cause my mom was talking to me. lol

He said she looks even more beautiful now. And I guess this showed to Rory that he still has feelings for her.

[laurenfan]

That painting was hideous what were they thinking 

I can't stand Chris and Lorelai they just don't belong together and I think Lorelai is slowly relizing it.

Chris was way out of line just giving the town the money,he just doesn't get Stars Hollow at all,I think the town acted like they weren't mad but I think they were. He should have waited until the end and then saw where the money situation stood and then gave whatever amount was left.

Rory's friends need to go they are so annoying the one girl calling Marty Boyfriend is so stupid.

I thought this episode was boring and I agreed with the town people not accepting him,he just doesn't fit in with the town at all.

[willowsprite]

Second quote: Well, I certainly know the town were okay enough to take his money.  Although, now I'm thinking when Christopher offered it, Taylor pulled out a shiv and said, "And don't think about taking it back, pretty boy!"

First, you obviously have never lived in a small town.  People in Star's Hollow are being much more hospitable than many small towns I've heard of.  I have cousins who lived for several years in What Cheer, Iowa, and were never accepted at all in the community, even though their daughter lived nearby.  And I've lived in one myself, and it was a lot like Star's Hollow, except not so picturesque and the people a bit more introverted.  But just as opinionated, nosy, and there for you in a crisis.

2nd, I think Taylor was okay with taking Chris' money.  But everyone else?  I don't think so.  Few like someone with lots of money throwing it around, even for a good cause, when they can't do the same.  He circumvented the town's way of doing things with his wealth.  And ended prematurely the comraderie and festivity of the Knit - a -thon.  It's not a fatal mistake, but one people will remember and talk about for years.  See point one above.

[Dani257]

You can take my home, my family, my freedom, and I'll find it in my heart to forgive you.  But, you stop me from knitting and I'll open a can of whoopass up in you!

Stars Hollow Official Motto: Adoped 2006
Former Motto:  You can never have too many Hello Kitty items.

Ha!  Seeing the post that is right before mine, I'm thinking my own brand of snark is being taken a bit literally.  Should I refrain from posting the above in the interest of understanding and clarity?  Naah!

were never accepted at all in the community, even though their daughter lived nearby. 

Hard core, man.  All I can say is, that still strikes me as haaaaard core.  And not just a ploy of the writers to make Christopher seem like the odd man out, but based on real life attitudes?  I need a hug!

And, I do realize that most people have a very different attitude towards the rich than me.  Also, they didn't have to stop knitting.  In fact, it would have made sense to keep on knitting and just use the overlap of funds for the next time they needed to repair the bridge (during which they could have told Christopher not to donate money again).  Because the bridge may be fixed now, but it's going down again.  Trust me.  Tasty wood, my foot.  The bridge is cursed I tell you!  Cursed!  Someone from Stars Hollow married someone from Woodbridge (and you know how they feel about Woodbridge) and they had the ceremony on the bridge, and as a result it will forever deteriorate, requiring big town festivals to repair it.

*methinks I might be in the market for a new avatar quote to self indulge in my own snark and smart aleck ways*  I am sooo bad.

[Tipla]

Oh SH isn't that bad.  Chris might very well be accepted, but that takes some time.  No one should expect that because Lor loves him, they have to automatically treat him like fabric in the quilt especially when they watched Rory grow up without him.  I don't think they wre being rude.  They just weren't being themselves which is to be expected.  He got th welcome wagon of acquaintances.  It is like some people in your life get gift baskets from Bath and Body Works/Walmart and some people you spend more time on.  Doesn't mean that the Bath and Body Works people can't work their way up, but they certainly shouldn't figure that I am gonna slave away looking for something more personal. 

This is a small town so Lor can object.  That is her right, but it is still the reality and part of hte charm of living in SH.  A charm that she herself has engaged and partaked in.  It is the same way with people spreading your business.  It is something that you can object to,b ut it is the reality of what it is.  And Lor could have left, but those qualities of SH is something that she likes.  It is the same thing with the best friend.  Sookie is wary, and she is gonna put her best foot forward because Lor asked her to, but she shouldn't be all 'YAY Chris love you Chris.  You're the greatest ever just like this other guy Chris'.  Rather than be inviting, I think it would be hugely phony. 

[Dani257]

Eh, I don't find it charming.  I also don't think she necessarily likes those things about Stars Hollow.  I'm sure there are plenty of other things she likes, but not that.

I mean, think of a marriage.  There are always going to be some things you don't like about a person but that doesn't mean you leave.  And, staying doesn't mean you like everything.

The charm of Stars Hollow might be the festivals for every occasion (but I'm still not joining any knitting circles any time soon) and being able to walk down the street at night without getting mugged, and having everyone know you can be charming, but that doesn't mean that every aspect of that is also charming.  Like Paris, the great truth teller says, every small town has a seedy underbelly.

*2000 posts and I'm still in the diner?!  I'm not hungry anymore!!*

[LovelyLaura]

Does no one else think that the towns folk were ok with Christopher paying for the rest of the bridge?  No one seemed upset. As a matter of fact, everyone seemed relieved to be able to do something else other than knit.  I doubt the town is not going to accept him for a kind gesture.  If anything, it annoyed Lorelai more than anyone else.

Gypsy:  "Man Chris, you must really love bridges."  That, my friends, is sarcasm.

[iTsNowOrNever]

Yeah the town def was upset probably yet they didn't seem to mind bc they were complaining they were cold etc. but the town seems to be drifting and theyre not as close as they used to be, i hope the new writers fix that and add more of the characters in soon!