7.09 - Knit, People, Knit!

[khadijahnm]

I now have to stand up.

Even though Dani and I disagree about alot of thngs regarding GG, I applaud Dani for her conviction. I would much rather discuss this will others who bring original and sometimes "controversial"  opinions to these boards than someone who has no opinion whatsoever.

[taloola]

I really need the tee shirt!!!!!
 
I don't post at these thingies but I had to make up an ID and post this.  If anyone knows how to get one of those tee shirts, Please post it here!!!!!

I googled the Phrase "knit or go home" and came up zilch!!!  Google never comes up empty!!!!!..

Help!!!!

Did I say "HELP!!!!!"   

Thanks for your attention

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[Dani257]

Okay, people, what is the deal with "Boyfriend"?  He acted like Rory was mean to him years ago or dumped him for Logan (can't dump someone you never dated).  And, where has he been all this time?  Did he drop out of Yale?  I know when I was in college, even if I didn't socialize with people, it was very common for me to run into people I had classes with years ago or even to just see them walking by.  I find it hard to believe in all this time, Rory never came across him and Lucy and wouldn't have stopped to say hi to him or something before this. Unless Rory only ever saw him without Lucy, or somehow managed never to see him walking across campus. (And, darn them for individualizing one of the Tweedles and forcing me to call them by name to specify which one I'm talking about)  Not to mention how he acted at the party hitting on another girl behind his girlfriend's back.  And, wasn't it the poor Tweedle's birthday party?  He needs a good smack upside the head.

[texas]

I LOVED Luke finally telling the mother off - that he has rights, and he's stopped being such a wimp.  Yes, Chris is that stupid; I think he's a dork, but even I was surprised that he's such a snob about the townspeople, and ruining the festival with a donation - he continues to get even more insensitive -yeah, trying to fit in, but not really looking around enough to get it-the community of Stars Hollow. If he had waited, and if at the end, they hadn't made their quota would have beem more perceptive.
Lorelai, who I love, should just throw a great party for Chris and herself and the town-like the birthday parties she used to throw for Rory.
Looking forward to next week SO much-are we supposed to say why here? it was in the previews-Luke and the baby were sweet, and he's not holding back anymore-especially next week it seems.

[texas]

morgenwinds-  I posted before reading everyone, (wired and tired on the east coast)
want to  respond about Logan & Christopher.  There were definite parallels in the beginning - both of them pretty and wealthy.  Well, in my opinion C is downright homely; I''m serious-pinched little face, insincere smile,no sex appeal.
But-I digress.  Major parallels in the beginning, but it's the ways they deal with privilege and their sense of entitlement which are becoming different. Logan is growing up- who non-priviliged would he deal with? doormen, waiters, employees, but he will be polite to all of them. He's developed sincere charm, as opposed to the little rich boy manners he was reared with. most importantly, he and Rory are so alike - and right for each other now-as soon as Emily got her hooks in the girl, R bought it hook and line. She's much more a part of Emily's life, and Logan's, than her mother's.
Christopher, on the other hand, has never grown up,  - no, no credit for finally taking care of one of his own kids, after granny gave him money -the important difference is he's  a part of an entitled world, and Lorelai, tho raised in it, has almost completely rid herself of their values.
So, I think Logan is liked  because he's charming,and loves R, and if it's because he's wealthy?  For viewers Logan and R's age-maybe, it may seem glamorous, is, actually. As for Chris-does anyone still find him agreeable in any way? If so, I don't get it either; can't wait for the fisticuffs myself.

[Dani257]

I find Christopher very agreeable in many ways.  I also think Logan is very fit for Rory, but his money or his "world" doesn't even rank on the list of reasons why.

[texas]

Are you speaking to me?

Of course it does; it has formed who they are.
In your posts, you seem to think this is not a classist society, and that anyone claiming it is does not either come from, or understand privilege.

[Dani257]

Well, I don't come from privilege myself.  And, I said that of all the reasons I find that make Logan my prefered choice for Rory, his money doesn't rank on my list.  I never said that other people might not like Logan or think he's right for Rory because of his money.  Actually, I believe some people do feel he's right for exactly that reason. And at the same time, some people believe he's completely wrong for Rory -exactly for the same reason.  Logan's money is inconsequential to me in why I like him and why I personally think he and Rory work together.  Although I do like his attitude towards money, but I'm sure if he didn't have moeny, that same attitude would find its expression in another way, so again, inconsequential to me.

Again, I'm sure other people have different reasons.

And, I don't not think it's a classist society.  I just reject those classist ideas in the forming of my beliefs and opinions. 

edited because "fit" just conjures up imagery in my head that I'd prefer not to have.

[texas]

Ah, you are interesting to talk with, after all. Since we're both up late-5:30am for me and can't sleep, let's give it a try.

Anyone having grown up in this country forms their beliefs and opinions based on a classist society, even if we reject the notion, loath that it still exists, and try to change belief systems.

I am of mixed race, and there was a discussion of the stereotypical Korean family.
I agreed that it was the most consistently stereotyped group in the show, and understood the objection to it.  As for African-Americans or Hispanics in a small Connecticut town, not realistic; I know these towns, why would a family WANT  to be the first black family to move there?   
As for Logan, I personally approve of him now, but don't think Rory knows who she is until she graduates. 

[Dani257]

Actually, and I can only speak for myself, my opinions aren't formed by society.  Or, they're not constrained by society, if that's more accurate.  To try and keep this somewhere in the vicinity of the topic, society might think Christopher can't fit in to Stars Hollow because he has money and doesn't know how they do things there.  While I still question why he would want to fit in, other than Lorelai lives there, it's my opinion, totally different from society (if that's the view) that Christopher's behavior is not set in stone, that he can adapt and won't make a well intentioned faux pas again.  And, I think the well intentioned part of the equation is significant. I'd also like to post the tangent that the oft repeated phrase (which hasn't been repeated in this case but fits the line of thought) "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" has gotten completely twisted in use.   Again, hasn't been brought up in this case yet, but it is a natural jumping point when someone mentions good intentions that have resulted in mistaken actions.  Actually, let me ammend that.  The use people have seems to be the same, I just disagree with the original meaning or at the least how strictly that meaning is adhered to.  I'm just rejecting all over the place.

I have a very strong sense of my beliefs, which often times completely fly in the face of the classist or any other ideas of society.  Call me a rebel.  Or a radical.  Or a radical rebel.

[texas]

Before getting back, briefly, to the topic of Christopher, I must say that - your last entry is very much how I would describe myself.  Especially being a rebel, radical, non-conformist.

I suspect C& L didn't discuss where they would live,(unless this is the episode I missed) unless - they assumed they'd live in SH. The natives (locals) are being snippy, but it will make for interesting interactions in future. They seem hurt, possibly, and are loyal to Luke, but also love Lorelai, and she has NOT included them in any way-her business, of course, but it's a party town, L an integral part of it, and since they don't know the whole story, they are distrustful if they think she dumped L and ran off w C. L certainly won't say anything. I'm about to crash, waiting for a reply if you're still around.
I wish they were open to new writers on this show.

[Dani257]

There was no specific conversation about would they live in Stars Hollow, but from Christopher mentioning home in relation to Stars Hollow and that he would be living there, it seemed to be understood that there was a discussion off camera.

And, not to repeat myself on the townspeople, I'll move on to Christopher, who I think behaved very well towards everyone, but I guess ignorance (in the definition of not knowing something-mainly the real feelings of the townspeople- not ignorant as stupid) is bliss.  He tried to take an interest in what was going on, was polite and friendly to people and open honest friendliness.  Also, while I doubt he really wanted to be with Jackson on the man date (no great shakes against Christopher, since I think Jackson felt the same way -who wants to hang out with someone just because your wives set up a play date?) he was friendly and talked to Jackson about something Jackson would have an interest in.  Also seriously responded to Jackson playing papa Gilmore with the shotgun in his conversation.  I will not touch the knit a thon again, at least not in this post.  But, I do wonder have the people in Stars Hollow never had anyone get married to someone they didn't like?  Get married to someone from outside of town?  No one was ever in a relationship with someone well liked by the town that went belly up?  Did it knock them for that much of a loop? 

Going to bed now, so my responses in response to responses will have to wait and other people will get a break from me posting for a few hours.  *Shakes her booty down in her bunker*

[Heidi]

Screencaps:  http://www.gilmoregirls.org/screencaps/episode709/index.html

~Heidi

[french1016]

Where to start? Luke was great with Anna. She can't dangle his kid in front of his nose and then snatch her away, it isn't fair for anyone of them and especailly not April. Does Miss Patty look sick to any of you? She does to me. I still love Ceaser HE ROCKS. Ok back to the episode. Poor Rory, naked guy should never have said what he said. They should just stay chummy for the sake of a common friend. Then to through it back in her face by running up and kissing his girlfriend. Logans hair looked different, longer. I love Rory's hair in curls.
True feelings about the episode though... I like that the Chris is meeting some male friends even if it just was Jackson. I hate that Taylor called the whole town function off. He should have waited and seen if they had raised more money. Why did Rory move into Paris' place again. Oh it's been a rough season and only about to get rougher. AGH.
Hope Lane is doing ok with the twins.

[stevie314159]

Predictions (and fantasy):

I can see how this season should go:

Sheri should tell Chris that she wants to keep Gigi with her in Paris.  Chris says OK, which pisses off Lorelei as she remembers how Chris  left her and Rory.

At the same time, Luke is fighting hard to keep April, maybe so hard that he may have to sell the diner to pay for the lawyers.  This is when Lorelei really starts to recognize the terrible mistake she's made---how she gave up the good man for the egotistical one.

Hope some show writer reads this and gets writing!