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« Reply #1065 on: November 23, 2007, 04:27:09 pm »

I thought about this after in Health class we were talking about how TV wants us to think we can have random, unprotected sex with whomever, whenever without any consequences.  And for a second I was thinking, 'Gilmore Girls isn't like that, the whole show is about a negative consequence' with you know, Rory being born and everything.  But wait--they always portray Rory as a positive thing (and I'm not saying it never turns out like that for people).  AND Lorelai has plenty of sex (including in the episode) and Rory's done it with Dean and Logan and all that and no one has ever gotten an STD or anything like that.

I kind of had to get that out of my system.  Sorry if it didn't even really have that much to do with the episode!
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« Reply #1066 on: December 23, 2007, 05:45:09 pm »

Just because Rory and Lorelai have sex doesn't mean it's not protected. Most people go on the pill once they start having sex regularly, and apart frpm the time Lor thinks she's pregnant, and she's eatig apples and whatnot, there's nothing to insinuate that when they have sex, it's unprotected.
People over the age of 18 (or 17, whatever it is in the US), have sex. It's a faxct of life, and if they tried to show on GG that they didn't, it would just be entirely unrealistic.
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« Reply #1067 on: December 30, 2007, 04:26:20 pm »

Amen Kate!
and Tucker I love your signature.

And again, Kate is absolutely right.People are having sex all the time these days. The fact that Rory made it through high school a virgin is rare and a good goal. A lot of the episodes dealt with Lorelai getting pregnant at 16 and how it turned out good for her but she would not reccomend it to anyone. I think that's the value they are trying to teach. People make mistakes, but it's how you learn from them and what you do with them that dictates who you are, not the mistakes themselves.

Gilmore Girls isn't about having unprotected sex whenever you want. And there are certainly consequences. When Lorelai slept with Christopher she officially ended her relationship with Luke and it pissed Rory off.
Okay not the sternest consequences but you get my drift.
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« Reply #1068 on: February 17, 2008, 03:01:51 am »

I am so far behind everyone, but i just watched this episode now and i am thinking the same things that everyone said earlier in the thread. This whole season i have been waiting for it all to fall apart. I have to say that i feel so stupid for how affected i feel right now...i am shocked and really really just... sad Cry
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« Reply #1069 on: February 18, 2008, 10:04:32 am »

I hate the ending of this episode! Luke was a jerk to Lorelai but she completely ruined it by making that now-or-never speech to Luke and then running off to sleep with Christopher. Lorelai turned back into an impulsive teenager (ha, i should talk). She was right to be angry at Luke but having sex with Christopher was self-destructive. This whole season was leading to disaster for Lorelai and Luke. They really gave it to us in this episode!
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« Reply #1070 on: February 19, 2008, 12:11:38 am »

I hate the ending of this episode! Luke was a jerk to Lorelai but she completely ruined it by making that now-or-never speech to Luke and then running off to sleep with Christopher. Lorelai turned back into an impulsive teenager (ha, i should talk). She was right to be angry at Luke but having sex with Christopher was self-destructive. This whole season was leading to disaster for Lorelai and Luke. They really gave it to us in this episode!

I know what you mean, i was watching this whole season with a horrible feeling in my stomach because you could see that it was all going to blow up in the end I felt bad for days after watching this episode!!!
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« Reply #1071 on: February 25, 2008, 05:33:06 pm »

I was soooo broken hearted when I saw Rorys face start to scrunch up when Logan was saying goodbye...gah, my heart broke!

As for Lorelai and Luke, I think Luke is being incredibly unfair. She was totally right when she said "You have to see how April fits into our lives, not the other way around"... Luke made a commitment to Lorelai and its really bad of him to ignore it because of April.
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« Reply #1072 on: February 25, 2008, 05:35:01 pm »

I hate the ending of this episode! Luke was a jerk to Lorelai but she completely ruined it by making that now-or-never speech to Luke and then running off to sleep with Christopher. Lorelai turned back into an impulsive teenager (ha, i should talk). She was right to be angry at Luke but having sex with Christopher was self-destructive. This whole season was leading to disaster for Lorelai and Luke. They really gave it to us in this episode!

I know what you mean, i was watching this whole season with a horrible feeling in my stomach because you could see that it was all going to blow up in the end I felt bad for days after watching this episode!!!

Oh I know! It really does leave you feeling bad.... not to mention, im a little upset about the fact that Amy Sherman-Palladino didnt write season 7... I really hope it wraps it all up at the end (dont ruin it for me yet... I get season 7 in the mail any day now!)
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« Reply #1073 on: February 26, 2008, 01:26:19 am »

I was soooo broken hearted when I saw Rorys face start to scrunch up when Logan was saying goodbye...gah, my heart broke!

As for Lorelai and Luke, I think Luke is being incredibly unfair. She was totally right when she said "You have to see how April fits into our lives, not the other way around"... Luke made a commitment to Lorelai and its really bad of him to ignore it because of April.

Your so right!!! I keep wondering why the April thing was such a big deal, she obviously loves Lorelai and I think she would have been happy for them... Luke was a jerk... and Lorelai acted too impulsively; but in saying that, i dont know that i would act different in the situation, you would want him to hurt! (Luke i mean)
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« Reply #1074 on: February 26, 2008, 03:47:11 am »

I have been wondering lately what was the big problem! Luke made the whole April thing much bigger that what it really was and Lorelai made marrying to him in "JUNE" such a big deal. Which makes me think that both Luke and Lorelai had other issues and were covering them up by pushing April and the June Wedding thing.

I sometimes wonder, was Lorelai really interested in being in love? I feel that she was just looking for someone to grow old with, not necessary being just in love with. That's her rush for the marriage, it was her guarantee that she'll wake up next to someone till the end. She didn't really lose Luke in this season, she just lost the opportunity of getting married in June and that drove her crazy. April wasn't really the problem to Lorelai because even at the end of this episode, she didn't say let me part of April's life or you won't see me again. She said let's get married now or you won't see me again.

As for Luke, he was afraid of getting married. Which i think was the silliest thing ever. He was dying to get out with Lorelai for eight years and here he was just trying to make any excuse to postpone the wedding.

Both Lorelai and Luke have serious issue with changes. He can't imagine getting out of SH even if it was for college and can't get out of his father's office and she can't get out of her house. I am pretty sure if she had to choose between finding love or leaving her house, she would not leave her house. They both have created this little safe environment for themselves and got trapped. Probably that's why they couldn't make it work.
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« Reply #1075 on: February 26, 2008, 09:25:04 am »

I have been wondering lately what was the big problem! Luke made the whole April thing much bigger that what it really was and Lorelai made marrying to him in "JUNE" such a big deal. Which makes me think that both Luke and Lorelai had other issues and were covering them up by pushing April and the June Wedding thing.

I sometimes wonder, was Lorelai really interested in being in love? I feel that she was just looking for someone to grow old with, not necessary being just in love with. That's her rush for the marriage, it was her guarantee that she'll wake up next to someone till the end. She didn't really lose Luke in this season, she just lost the opportunity of getting married in June and that drove her crazy. April wasn't really the problem to Lorelai because even at the end of this episode, she didn't say let me part of April's life or you won't see me again. She said let's get married now or you won't see me again.

As for Luke, he was afraid of getting married. Which i think was the silliest thing ever. He was dying to get out with Lorelai for eight years and here he was just trying to make any excuse to postpone the wedding.

Both Lorelai and Luke have serious issue with changes. He can't imagine getting out of SH even if it was for college and can't get out of his father's office and she can't get out of her house. I am pretty sure if she had to choose between finding love or leaving her house, she would not leave her house. They both have created this little safe environment for themselves and got trapped. Probably that's why they couldn't make it work.

Wow thats so right. I never even really thought of the symbolism behind their houses!

I just really dont want to see Lorelai with Christopher anymore. I cant stand Christopher. He is always ruining everything just when its getting good and then disappearing out of her life. Im tired of her screwing everything up because of Christopher.
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« Reply #1076 on: March 08, 2008, 06:02:35 pm »

I just really dont want to see Lorelai with Christopher anymore. I cant stand Christopher. He is always ruining everything just when its getting good and then disappearing out of her life. Im tired of her screwing everything up because of Christopher.

I do not think Christopher was to blame for Lorelai "screwing everything up". Lorelai went to his house voluntarily. She made the decision herself. We do not know exactly what happened between her arrival at his house and the next morning but it was never suggested that Christopher forced Lorelai into doing anything. In the next episode that started season 7 we see that Christopher is interested in something serious. That shows he wanted Lorelai in his bed for much more than the one night.

For Lorelai and Luke, nothing was "getting good". It was all a disaster, all the episodes leading up to this one, and it was their own faults. Christopher had nothing to do with the break-up between Lorelai and Luke. Luke was a jerk for keeping April away from Lorelai and forever postponing the wedding. Lorelai made the mistake of not speaking up about it loudly enough. I mostly like Lorelai and Luke as a couple but not during these episodes.
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« Reply #1077 on: March 11, 2008, 06:58:08 am »

I refuse to watch that episode (since I saw the Preview on Youtube) so I only watch the earlier seasons
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« Reply #1078 on: March 13, 2008, 01:25:40 am »

Its just a horrible way to end a relationship... one that obviously shouldnt have ended! But in saying that... it really did have the suspense of a really good cliff hanger!
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« Reply #1079 on: May 15, 2008, 04:36:10 pm »

It sucks that ABC Family won't show Season 7 but then again, maybe it was due to some contractual deals and such about syndication or whatever.  Yet, from the transcripts I've read about season 7 and all of those stories.  It's clear that the show was starting to crumble.  I don't know exactly what Amy Sherman and Daniel Palladino were aiming for but right towards the end of that episode where Luke and Lorelai fell apart and Lorelai going to Christopher definitely reached into a direction that I think kinda betrayed the tone of the show and made it into a soap opera.

Things were fine in GG fashion with the numerous troubadors that included Mary Lynn Rajskub (sp?), Yo La Tengo, Sonic Youth, Daniel Palladino, and Sam Phillips.  Grant Lee Phillips had a hilarious one liner about Neil Young "Hearts of Gold my ass".  Taylor, so clueless about music and, I'm not surprised if he was into someone as square as Pat Boone.  Note to Kirk, Neil Diamond wrote "I'm A Believer", not "Last Train to Clarksville". 

Logan and Rory's story was great and I can understand what Mitchum Huntzberger is trying to do for Logan but I think it's all up to Logan and he needs some time.  Rory's party for Logan was great though their last scene was sad and it at least proved, despite his faults, that Logan is worthy of Rory. 

I don't like Christopher.  I really, really, don't.  While it's clear that he and Lorelai have a history, to be set up on a date by Emily was dumb and I can understand Christopher's awkwardness.  The shrink character was fine but it didn't really go anywhere for Lorelai's character and it made her confused.  Even as she tried to avoid Luke, which in many ways was childish on Lorelai's part.

Then the ultimatum.  While I might be leaning towards Luke on the fact that they should just slow things down and talk about it.  The fact that he used his daughter as an excuse is just wrong of him.  Lorelai is right about the fact he should have them both in their lives so they can figure things out about how to establish a relationship with April.  Yet, as emotional as Lorelai was, her impatience and desperation really just really scared Luke.  In many ways, Luke and Lorelai both handled this wrongly.  It was Luke's hesitation and Lorelai's impatience that really broke them up the second time.  Many want to blame April for breaking them up but it's not her fault.  It was Anna's fault for not telling Luke for those 12 years.  Then there's Christopher.  He's not at fault for breaking them up either though he did do a lot of damage.  What he did was took advantage of Lorelai's emotions and live up to this teenage fantasy that he had in his head.  The look on his face as he went back to bed with Lorelai was like "I got Lorelai back!  I beat the diner guy!". 

If Luke and Lorelai via Virtual Gilmore Girls Season 8 went back in time to that ultimatum and looked at themselves.  They'd probably be disgusted consider how content and at peace they are now since there's no pressure around them to get married or wanting a child.  Luke would've probably told himself to stop acting a complete pussy and just let April be in their lives and forget about Anna and her intimidating presence.  Lorelai would've told herself to stop the crybaby act, stop getting desperate, stop being impatient, and not go to Christopher for comfort. 

Everything that happened to Luke and Lorelai at the end of Season 6 and Season 7 was a mess and what they both had to do was swallow up a lot of pride and just say "I'm sorry" to each other and be in love again right in the end.  Thank God for Virtual Gilmore Girls Season 8.  The first episode began with Luke taking Lorelai to his new boat and on a boat trip where they talked.  That boat trip signified the fact that they came onto that boat with a lot of the emotional baggage they went through in their relationship.  When they returned to Stars Hollow, they came back without the baggage and start all over again.  It wasn't easy.  There were some arguments, they were a lot of angry looks, and certainly a lot of walking away.  Yet, they got through it.  They talked things over, they got a chance to think, they got comfort each other.  They didn't cheat on each other.  Yet, the last episode of Virtual Gilmore Girls Season 8 has them completely in-sync with each other, making plans for what's next, and gaining something far more valuable than some engagement ring, a wedding, or a boat.  Peace of mind. 

One of the most touching moments of that Season 8 finale was a new daily activity they do which is to walk with Paul Anka and just talk while walking around the pond nearby.  There's no one around them, there's no distraction.  Just them and Paul Anka.  It's something new they're trying and yet, it seems to be like a regular thing that's going to happen for them.  Especially at the point where they want a child and share that child with their family.  After all, the Gilmore-Danes family featuring Rory, April, Richard, Emily, Jess, Liz, T.J., Doula, and Liz/T.J.'s next child plus the Bellvilles, the Van Gerbigs, Miss Patty, Babette, Morey, Kirk, Lulu, Caesar, Gil, Brian, Gypsy, Andrew, Paris, Doyle, Michel, Taylor, and Mia is definitely one to anticipate.  They're all dysfunctional, eccentric, and a little bit crazy yet what child would not want to be surrounded by all of those people with Luke and Lorelai as their parents?
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