6.06 - Welcome To The Dollhouse

[Lucie]

Sorry guys, but I LOVED this episode

[Dani257]

Logan and Rory...that whole "I love you" thing was stupid.  And a Birkin bag?  Come on, that's so expensive, even for Logan.  Just ridiculous, a random present costing thousands of dollars.  And even I know what they are...and I'm younger than Rory, not to mention that I don't have rich grandparents who might have mentioned it.  It just seemed unrealistic that Rory had no idea what it was.

I'm older than Rory, and never heard of Birkin Bags before this show.  Plus, what's wrong with a random present?  If I had a boyfriend I would find it nice if he didn't wait until some arbitrary "proper" occasion to give a gift, but just because.  If he were the type to wait until birthdays and holidays, that would be fine too, but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if he happened to feel the urge to give me one on August 15th or something like that.  Not that it would need to be expensive, either.  But, just like I wouldn't be upset with a gift because of the price tag if it happened to be inexpensive, I wouldn't find an expensive gift to be a bad thing either.  It's the thought that counts, not the price, and doesn't that go both ways?  I'd also hope I'd be the kind of person to give a boyfriend a gift, just because.  For no reason.  Just random. 

It's also probably not going to sound like a good thing, but I'm pretty sure a Birkin Bag really isn't too expensive for Logan.  If you mean too expensive for him to afford.

[ChocolatGilmore]

It's funny because to buy a Birkin bag you must be on a Hermes waiting-list for at least 6 yrs, so maybe Logan never intended for it to be for Rory!!!!

   Yes!  And at 10K a pop.  It really is a ridiculously expensive gift for a college student to give-- even Logan, who was only spending his father's money afterall.  Unless the giver is deeply in love, there's no reason to give it to someone you just started dating except to flaunt your money and hope someone poorer than you will be impressed.  Pretty unromantic when you think about it. 

Not that I'd turn it down.   

Still-- he gives you a Birkin with ease, but freaks out when your grandfather asks about the future.  It's "uneven". 

[bingbong]

Still-- he gives you a Birkin with ease, but freaks out when your grandfather asks about the future.  It's "uneven". 

Extremely uneven and i forgot about the Birkin bag. Just one more reason to dislike Logan, that spoiled pampered swarmy wheeny butt.

I seem to recall an ep of Sex & The City that involved a Birkin bag. Samantha was desperate for one but there was a long waiting list, so she ordered under Lucy Lieu's name, who she was representing at the time. I think it was a Birkin bag.

[Dani257]

Hmm. I think there are multiple reasons why a person can do anything, and just because one person can only think of a couple of the worst interpretations doesn't mean they're the only ones that exist. 

Possible reasons to give a Birkin Bag to someone you're in a relationship with but not yet deeply in love with:

1. You've grown up in an environment where affection (or the illusion of affection) is expressed in money.  (not sure I agree with it as a Logan reason, but it is a possible one) 

2. Logan just wanted to give Rory something special.  No need to justify why he wanted to give her something special.  These impulses don't need a reason.  He might have noticed that Honor liked her Birkin Bag and thought Rory would like it, too.  Heck, who knows if he didn't ask Honor for a suggestion?

3.  He noticed how Rory appreciated the fine things in his parents' house before the inquisition, so he could have assumed that she would enjoy something like that.

4.  It's possible that the interpretation of him doing it for ignoble reasons is a middle class perspective, and not really accurate since Logan wouldn't be thinking from a middle class perspective. (I mean middle class as a financial thing, not a personal quality).  I don't have any authority, but maybe for Logan a Birkin Bag isn't something that's only given when you're deeply in love.  Maybe an expensive gift doesn't have the same connotations.  Price may not really be an issue.  Maybe it's only people who can't afford to spend a ton of money for no reason who think that an expensive gift should only be given to someone you love deeply, while a rich person would think that a gift is a gift, regardless of the price.  Obviously, rich people and non rich people might not all share that division of thought (if they do at all) since I don't see any breach of etiquette in the mere fact of Logan giving Rory something expensive.  And, another rich person might find it the height of tackiness.   

5. Flip the assumption.  What if Rory gave Logan something he could easily afford 20 of on his own?  Would it be accurate to say that the only reason was because she was trying to make him feel superior?  Or, more to the point, feel guilty that she couldn't afford something more expensive?   

Of course, it's possible that none of these reasons were why.  (To be perfectly honest, as far as writer's intent, I think the reason was simply to show Rory's cavalier attitude -and hey, maybe that's when he realized that unlike other women he's been around, Rory would appreciate simpler things- and Emily's almost worship of the thing)  I'm just saying, there are various possible reasons to do something, even if they don't occur to the person thinking.  (I bet someone else could think of a few I've missed -positive and negative

And, as far as not being able to answer questions about the future?  They had just started dating.  Logan hadn't even started to think in terms of his own future let alone a shared one.  I doubt Rory was thinking seriously about a long term future.  Not that either one was actively anticipating a short relationship, but is it really unusual for two college students in the very beginning of a relationship to not have actively pictured where they'd be a year or two down the road?  And, especially in a farther off future that Richard might have been thinking of?  And, again, if from Logan's perspective, a Birkin Bag isn't something you only give to someone you're deeply in love with and planning a future with, there really wouldn't be any unevenness in him giving one and at the same time not being able to answer Richard's questions.

[bingbong]

... he gives you a Birkin with ease, but freaks out when your grandfather asks about the future.  It's "uneven". 

Extremely uneven and i forgot about the Birkin bag...

As i think about it, maybe it's not so "uneven". It would be perfectly natural to become unraveled when you perceive your girlfriend's grandfather to be nosing into your relationship and intentions. And, from Logan's hoity toity perspective, giving a fancy schmancy bag was probably his idea of a nice gesture and nothing more. As dani257 touched on, it's not much different than a middle class person giving a gift proportionate to their economic level.

[ChocolatGilmore]

       Nah, it was extravagant even for those with money.  Remember Emily's reaction?  She gushed herself silly over that bag (not to mention inhaling the scent, caressing it, etc).   And she's hardly middle class.    She also thought it meant something, when apparently it didn't mean anything.

[haileyerin]

I'm such an idiot.
During the scene in which Kirk is giving Lorelai all the options for her street name, Lorelai exclaims, "Oh my God, I just realized where all that stuff is from." I thought she was talking about the street name choices, so I spent a good ten minutes googling everything and then realized she was talking about Emily's deliveries.

In case you were wondering, which you probably weren't, Chargoggagogg manchauggagogg chaubunagungamaugg is a lake. I'm the only one who didn't know that, aren't I?

Hailey

[gilmore2972]

I love the street names
so funny

[thevoid99]

The street name stuff was hilarious... Sores & Boils Alley... yikes.  Luke, trying to Zen and then, goes back to Nuclear Luke!

Yay for Lorelai to have Nuke Luke back!  All those presents she's getting... wow. 

Logan gives Rory a Birkin bag... made by Jane Birkin...  an actress/pop singer who was also the ex-wife of the late yet legendary French singer Serge Gainsbourg and mother of actress Charlotte Gainsbourg, star of The Science of Sleep.

Emily going ga-ga over the Birkin bag was funny.  Poor Richard, awkward conversation with Logan about Rory's future confusing Logan.  He's becoming more concerned.  It was nice of him to bring Lorelai's doll house and... I think he's trying to apologize to Lorelai over what they did with Rory and wanting to get her back on track. 

[roryshmory]

Well I would like to say that Richard wasn't really trying ask about Logan and Rory's marriage plans.  He was trying to find out what was going on with Rory.  My problem is, why can't Richard and Emily ask her???  Hello!!!!  And if she said, not much, well, then, accept it!  And besides, she's in her 20s.  And they're not her parents.  She's not going to be as open with them as they want her to.

There.  I said it.  The end.

[Jessicarae27]

I unfortunately don't get to watch this episode since I've had to watch season six online. I was looking to get caught up before I move on to episode seven and judging by what everyone has said about the episode I can conclude this: I agree that the point of the Birkin bag is to note that  A. Despite the new Gilmore world she lives in right now, shes still that same girl who dreamed of attending Harvard not of owning designer overpriced bags ( I love Hermes but sorry, there is NO reason to spend the price of a car on a purse.)  B. That Logan is that kind of guy who knows what that bag is and means ( at least to a girl in his social scene) Just wanted to get her something she's adore. And I think that's a big (enough) step for Logan right now. The fact that he got her $15,000 in a handbag and not books proves he still doesn't know the girl he's dating, making his decision not to say I love you yet very appropriate. I Also, I do believe Logan has that kind of money. His mother speaks of everyone's money and Huntzburger money. I assume they are maybe a small version of the Hearst clan. Their house speaks volumes. As does Logan's vacations.

 But I do wish I could have seen Emily smell that bag, I love her.

I love this show.

And I like Logan. I think the perfect Rory thing was getting boring and I like that she had a little breakdown like a lot of kids do around that age. Especially kids
who have been so tunnel visioned all their lives.

And the whole purpose of her going to Yale was to have everything. Run with the best, be the best. She beautiful, painfully smart, of good up bringing.
Who was she suppose to date? Marty? I loved Marty and Duck Soup but the really? Logan is the best of both Jess and Dean. Gorgeous, smart, confidant and I don't think
he's a snobby as some of the other boys he hangs out with. He's never been mean just a little careless about peoples emotions but he is just 21. He'll be the perfect man in 10 years, he's just going to be a pain in the ass along the way. Its a learning process. He takes care of her, treats her well ( unlike Jess) and is always straight forward and honest even if it makes him look like a tool. He's the good and the bad that she needs. and vice versa. That's why I think secretly he's upset she's not going back to Yale. That admiration thing again.

Dean kinda annoyed me. The only personality he really had was hers. She wore off on him so quickly that when they first dated, they worked so well because he admired her
so much. Movies with Lorelai, double date with Luke. The only world we saw Dean have was hers so when they go back together , he was so bitter at that point he had like 20 lines all the episodes he was in. Nothing to say.

Jess rocked. I want a boy who carries a book in his back pocket. Sigh.  too bad he was so flighty.

[Gilmore Gyrlie]

mediocre episode, but i liked when Richard bought Lorelai her dollhouse.