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916  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.10 - Merry Fisticuffs on: December 06, 2006, 12:56:16 PM
The way i feel about the Lucy situation is as follows

Lucy hasnt been friends with Rory for that long and in Lucy's eyes I think that getting betrayed this early on maybe says something.  I think Lucy should dump rory as a friend
Yes, exactly.  I understand and agree that Logan should not have aired all of this out while they were out to dinner but he was kind of up against a wall and you can't expect him to lie for everyone, especially Marty after the couple jabs at Logan.  Lies on top of lies just make the situation worse and harder to explain later, much less have the offended party believe a word after being fed so many lies.  Yes Rory told him about it before hand but he's a blurt-out-whatever's-on-his-mind-regardless-of-who-it affects kinda guy.  Yes, his reasoning afterward may have been tainted (kinda missed the fight after, friend crisis, thank god for the DVR I'll re-watch tonight) but it shouldn't have gone on any longer, much less at all.  Whew, that was a lot of yeses.

I've read almost all of the posts now (yes all!) except for the last few that have been posted as I type.  Very very good points from all sides, I don't know exactly what to make of everything now  Shocked.  Emily's speech.  I liked it.  I think Lorelai needed to hear it.  You should be happy in a marriage.  But when you enter a marriage you need to enter it knowing that it's right and willing to make changes/do things to make the other person happy.  And she let Chris change her mind (notice I don't say persuade, she made the decision to say yes) and rush into it without thinking it over and now she's feeling the effects.  Righfully so, it shouldn't be taken lightly, Emily had a point there, and I think they both rushed it and didn't think of the after-effects.  I was somewhat surprised to hear Emily say she liked Chris.  Not because I thought she didn't like him I've always thought she preferred him to Luke, but because of the comments she made about him just prior to that during her speech.  I also think that it is a big change for her, she's never been married, let alone lived with someone else and she does need time to adjust.  I don't think chris is being to pushy but I think that he can sense something's wrong and is freaking out.  And we assume what's wrong is that they're not meant for each other but maybe it's just that Lor needs a lot more time to adjust, this is a big change for her.

I liked the fight.  It was hillarious and I was cheering for Luke all along, seems like nothing can go right for him at the moment.  I don't hate Chris and I won't go out of my way bash him I just think he's a victim of circumstance.  He enters into everything with the best of intentions and doesn't think about the consequences, see my theme?  But I can't help to think that Lor enabled everything that's going down right now.  I mean, she ran to Chris, right?  Can't blame her, he's always been her safety net kinda...

That's all for now because I feel like I just wrote a novel and I need to learn about community points because I just lost my only one   Embarrassed
917  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.10 - Merry Fisticuffs on: December 06, 2006, 10:51:07 AM
this episode seemed a little odd to me. the way lucy totally freaked about rory and marty pretending to not know each other didn't make that much sense because I didn't think it was that big of a deal. and then neither lucy or  her roomate would even let rory explain any thing.

I have not finished reading all of the posts yet, so apologies if this has already been said.  I think Lucy's reaction was totally appropriate.  Okay, maybe she took it a little too far by refusing to hear an explanation, but I know I wouldn't be too happy to find out my boyfriend and new friend have been lying to me about having known each other for years (we are talking years here not just a couple months or something).  I would definitely think there was something going on or else why hide it in the first place?  I do not like that Rory played along with that lie at all.  Kudos to Logan for blowing the top off of it, as someone else mentioned I don't know if I trust Rory to tell Lucy herself.  
918  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.09 - Knit, People, Knit! on: November 30, 2006, 02:47:48 PM
That's an interesting point about the painting vs. the house. Emily chose the house for Luke and Lorelai to start a family in, but whether Christopher wants more children is a topic shrouded in mystery. She probably mistakenly assumes that because they are a wealthy couple instead of a comfortable couple they would be thinking of their art collection instead of future progeny.

Or maybe, in a rare fit of sensitivity, Emily realized that offering them the house she picked out for a wedding to Luke would hurt Lorelai's feelings or remind her of him somehow. It seems unlikely, I know, but Emily Post probably covers it...

I was wondering about this too.  I thought maybe it was actually kind of a shot at the two of them for eloping and then of course the way Lorelai informed them of it. 
919  Gilmore Girls / Spoilers / Re: Discussion of Spoilers on: November 29, 2006, 01:27:01 PM
Okay everyone!  Here's something new!!!:

7.12 title - To Whom It May Concern

"Lorelai writes a letter as character reference for Luke. Christopher reads it while she's out of the house, and he gets angry." Nicolalala at FanBolt


YEAH!!! THANKS!!!! Cheesy
1st off BOO Chris for going through Lorelai's stuff, and I mean its through character refrence, so he doesn't know 100% its for Luke.  And this is probably what Chris is still made at Lorelai about in episode 13, therefor pouting instead of helping Lorelai and Emily and such with Richard.

Newer to the forum so forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but I like how this ties back to the beginning of the season where Chris openly tells Lor about the letter from Sherri and she's so happy and surprised that he's not trying to hide it.  I wonder if she will be trying to hide this or just hadn't have a chance to tell Chris about it. 
920  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.09 - Knit, People, Knit! on: November 29, 2006, 10:58:18 AM
Predictions (and fantasy):

I can see how this season should go:

Sheri should tell Chris that she wants to keep Gigi with her in Paris.  Chris says OK, which pisses off Lorelei as she remembers how Chris  left her and Rory.

I was fantasizing the same exact thing!  Grin Except in my version Chris decides to move to Paris so he doesn't miss out on Gigi growing up like he did Rory.  How bout that?
921  Episode Discussion / Season 7 / Re: 7.09 - Knit, People, Knit! on: November 29, 2006, 10:06:27 AM
I'm new to posting and haven't read the rest of the posts and don't know if this was already said so bear with me...  
Okay, I totally agree with this.  BUT I also think that these feelings resulting from Lorelai's behavior are what the writers intend!  In which case its wonderful writing.  Take a moment to not be mad that ASP is gone and look at what the show is making you feel.  That's what it's about isn't it?  Lorelai is a runner (I missed a few seasons in the middle there but this, I get).  She runs from Hartford, she runs from Chris, she runs from Max, it's what she does.  Now I haven't finished catching up on how she deals with breaking things off with Max but according to the posts under Season 2 it's very similar, she runs to Harvard.  So I say again, this is what she does, how she deals with an ended relationship (although for the record I hope L/L are not totally over) she moves on and doesn't look back.  This time I think (and hope) all of her ignoring her feelings and trying to run won't work and she is going to have to face it.  


This marriage...this game they're playing cooing "I love you's" to each other...come on.  This is not right.  I don't hate Chris.  But I do hold a grudge that he slept with Lorelei at the end of last season, knowing that she was engaged to someone else.  If he truly cared for her, he would have stopped her.  And calling Luke "the diner guy" next week?  Does he not realize that Lorelei was engaged to that "diner guy" for an entire year?  Does he not realize that it's kinda odd that she would have a complete and total change of heart in a few short months?  This is why I am pissed at the writing this season.  It's so unrealistic, it's sickening.  We NEVER see Lorelei's feelings for Luke back up on her.  Oh, one time she cried.  But she refuses to really talk about the hook-up or Luke.  And she didn't want to call Rory because she was afraid Rory "would talk her out of it."  Obvously, someone is desperately trying to push away her feelings.  

922  Gilmore Girls / Show and Cast Member News / Re: If anyone knows of any reason she isn't marrying Luke ... 11.14.06 on: November 16, 2006, 11:54:11 AM
I'd like to add my two cents to this thread.  This is the first time I'm posting.  I've become addicted to this show the last couple years (yes, I missed the first few seasons but am catching up!).  I'm not going to touch the classes of society debate but had this thought bouncing around in my little head regarding L/L.  I think Lorelai was just in the "marrying" mindset from all of the drama with Luke, that she would have settled for anyone making the proposal?  I mean she had done all of this planning, she proposed (which I'm not bashing in any way) and was finally ready to settle down and start a life with someone.  She needed a great show of emotion/passion/feeling from Luke to know he was still there with her and she didn't get it until giving an ultimatum (which no woman should have to do), Chris gave her that (albeit in a monetary way) with no hesitation in this past episode.  There's no way she could be over Luke, I'm sorry and I don't care how much she ignores it, she's not, it takes more than a couple months to get over a relationship like that and even consider committing to someone else regardless of the history with that someone else.  Hers was definitely a look of regret at the end of the episode, I personally think, for marrying Chris.

I've read a lot of opinions that the show has become too soap opera.  But I have to say I enjoy the drama, c'mon who doesn't know someone that ran off and got married for the wrong reasons and ended up divorced just a few months later?  Honestly, I think it adds a little bit more of the feel of people reacting as people in real life would, as someone else mentioned.  And let's face it, not everyone gets the "and they lived happily ever after" ending to their life.

Okay, that's all I've got right now : )
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