I honestly don’t see how Rory being miserable just off a three year break up is a “good ending”.  Not at all.  And I wouldn’t exactly call Logan a jerk, he just put himself on the line in the most vulnerable way anyone can for the love of his life *sigh* 

Well, it would be the height of stupid on the writers' part to imply in the last episode that Rory has gotten over the break up, since she said she was in love with Logan and wanted to try the long distance, so unless they really are morons, she'll have to have some sadness next week.  So, some ending.  And, they had Logan going on about how he knew everything would be okay if he had her, so he has to miserable.  Yep, it's going to be one pile of happiness in the finale for Rory.  What an ending.

That's my biggest concern.  I can live with the show ending, even though I'm very sad, I prefer shows to end while they are still popular rather than drag out.  That said, I have a sinking feeling that its not going to end well.  I want to buy the entire series, watch them for years to come and enjoy...

Is it just me or was some of the writing particularly Not Good...?  The breakup scene in particular....my sister who is not a huge fan, but does watch occasionally turned to me and said "wow the writing there was not good."  Very sad, it all seemed so contrived. It didn't fit, how do you go from "loving so much" to totally broken up....the script was just that, a script, it had no life and was almost as if the characters themselves couldn't figure why they were saying what they were saying...(if that makes any sense at all!).  Oh well, I'm spending way too much time analyzing a TV show...  

I really hope the series finale does the show justice, that there is closure.  I love both Lauren Grahan & Alexis Bledel and the other actors/actresses. They've given so much to this show.  I hope the series finale honors them and is one they will be proud of.  

someone said everyone is signed on for season 8 except Lauren and Alexis (which would mean Matt).  And, really, what are they going to do with him if he's not Rory's boyfriend? 

Ok, question, if someone has signed a contract for a specific season, are the producers obligated to cast them? 

First time I stumbled on gilmore girls I was desperately searching for a summary of Wedding Bell Blues from Season 5.  I was hooked at first browse.

Since then I've become addicted to spoilers and thoroughly enjoy reading the posts, particularly Dani's.  My first poll participation was the how long will R/L last....my first contest the favorite moment for the Season 6 drawing.  I remember the thrill when I received my first pretty stick.

Thanks to all who keep this forum running!!

Show just ended and I'm still mulling it all through, but have to say that I think this was the best episode so far this season.  Not because of what happened, but how things happened.  I think this episode did DR proud - he said at the beginning of the season that we would see character growth, relationships change, some deepen, and after weeks of setting the stage, it finally happened.   I was getting worried that DR and this season was going to be just a string of episodes not culminating until the season finale.  I hope this is a turning point and not a one time occurance.  Watching the GG grow together as women is part of why I love the show so much.

The conversations between R/L about the TA crush made me proud.  We're all human and as my mom's friends say "just cause we're married (one could insert "or in a relationship") doesn't make us blind.."   Its normal to feel an attraction to an attractive fella or girl, its what one does about that makes difference.  So glad Rory talked about it with Logan.

Second, both discussions between L/C should great improvement in Lorelai's communicating skills.  They had a real, open talk - something that I believe is vital to relationships.  I also take from their discussion that they will part as amicably as possible - not in anger.  Yes, it will take time, but that's reasonable, there's still a lot to work through on both sides. On a side note Lauren Graham is an amazing actress.  Her performance was stellar.

Lastly, thank the Lord for friends who are willing to ask the tough questions! Way to go Sookie....if Lorelai had asked herself that question a long time ago she may not be in this mess.

I know I said lastly above, but have to add one thing...did anyone else thoroughly enjoy the conversation in the hospital at the very beginning!  It was classic Gilmore!

Wow, word for word what I have been thinking.  I really really hope Logan does not do anything dirty in Las Vegas.  But like the quote, Logan should realize that now he cannot goof off anymore, the Life and Death Brigade was in college, and although Logan's relationship with Rory was in college, Logan WILL realize Rory is the one.  There is never going to be another one like Rory, and if Logan wants her he has to promise to keep her close, to continue the relationship.  I love the idea of Logan and Rory getting married and maybe even doubling with Luke and Lorelai.  But if this is the last season, the double marriage would be a good idea, and then  the final scene between Lorelai and Rory, both married and settled down, ready for the second part of their lives...

Interesting thoughts...the idea of a double wedding never crossed my mind.  Actually, upon reflection, I have to respectfully disagree.  While a L/L marriage wouldn't bother me, I hope R/L don't get married at the end of Season 7.   Rory would have just graduated Yale and unless she gets the dream job offer in NY or has an epiphany about what to do post college, I think it would feel rushed. On the side...I'm not sure a double wedding would be practical for the GG...Lorelai and Rory have different tastes and while they're "freakishly close" a mother/daughter double wedding seems a bit odd. Though stranger things have happened in Stars Hollow.  

That being said, being a huge R/L shipper, it would be nice to see them reiterate their commitment to each other.  I wouldn't mind a conversation similar to the one L/L had in the restaurant, "This thing we're doing...I'm in, all in." A commitment that signifies or implies marriage in the future would be ok. The jury is still out on an engagement. 

I'm curious to hear peoples' takes on Lorelai and Chris' conversation in the preview.  While I think Luke is the best for Lorelai long term, I've always felt that she needed to explore an adult relationship with Chris.  My fear was that Chris would turn out as the bad guy...but I was greatly heartened by the preview.  It appears they have a real discussion about their relationship, Chris' needs, and Lorelai's feelings.  Her "I need you to know..." looks heartfelt and he doesn't appear mad, but to be listening, his heartbreaking, but that's understandable...she's a Gilmore Girl afterall. 

All in all, the preview made me feel better about both L/C and L/R...I really hope that L/R conversation and Logan's "I'm not worried about us." is in reference to Rory telling him about her crush.

[He understands her the most, and he respects her decisions more than any other guy in her life has. He lets her be herself without trying to change her.]

I used to think that Dean was the one. But they just seemed to end up worlds apart, especially when Jess came into the picture, and ohh yea when he married Lindsay. I noticed that Dean's attitude changed drastically since the beginning. He used to really care about Rory, but then later on he was controlling and jealous. Remember how he used to enter scences with Rory/Tristan, Rory/Jess and like throw a fit?? That got to me after a while.  Let a girl breathe, geeeez ;P

I think that Logan is the best for Rory. I think he's so nice to her, her family, and her friends. He understands her the most, and he respects her decisions more than any other guy in her life has.  He lets her be herself without trying to change her.

Dean was a great first boyfriend and I think he really loved her, but for someone with as big as aspirations as Rory has, Dean was not self-confident enough for a long-term relationship.  Also, control & jealousy issues get old fast in a relationship.  Has his reaction at the Male, Yale Party ever totally peeved anyone besides me?  I'll admit I already wasn't a fan of him, but....he should have been so confident, here she was surrounded by "very eligible men" and she was waiting for him, leaving the party to meet him to leave with him...his reaction was the nail in coffin for me. For the fun of it I'm watching reruns of Season 5...in the episode when they turn Old Man Twickam's house into a Museum...I was shocked by the bitterness and anger Dean portrayed when talking with Luke about the GG.

As for Logan:

I don't think he understood her at the beginning and that was what intrigued him - she challenged him; emotionally, intellectually (& probably physically, but we won't go into that...).  Isn't that what a relationship is about? Challenging each other, growing together, and growing individually.  I know some hate Logan because he's "changed Rory."  But really, can someone change another individual without that person's "permission?"  Yes, Rory has changed, but she's growing up.  The years from 18-25 a person is changing a lot, becoming an adult, making their own decisions in the "real world."  Yes, she's made some bad decisions, some mistakes, but she's learned and is learning from them - thats what is important. And underneath it all, she is still the same Rory who is driven, smart, loves her family and friends, and is best friends with her mother!

Logan is my favorite boyfriend, but then again, this is the first adult, long-term relationship for Rory. To me, that puts in on a different level than her relationships with Dean and Jess.

I'm getting really antsy about Rory and Logan.  for awhile, I was pretty confident.  I figured the show considered Rory/Logan's romance to be as important to viewers as Sookie/Jackson, or Lane/Zach.  And, my view is, tv shows aren't going to waste a lot of time on a secondary couple.  They leave the drama to the main couple.  So, I thought it was a blessing in disguise that Rory and Logan take the backburner to the Life and Loves of Lorelai.  (I kind of hate that this show is making me sarcastic about Lorelai).  But, I don't like the idea that this TA -aka "What, are you too good for Harvard, fool?" is a recurring character.  To me, being recurring means he can't be dismissed that easily.  And, they wouldn't introduce Rory having a crush on this guy if that wasn't significant.  Plus, I'm also antsy because their future seems to be hanging on whether the show comes back for another season.  I can think of different scenarios for that.  Will being together happen if the show ends or will it happen if it comes back for another season?  Or, will they split up if the show ends this season or doesn't?  My fear is, they are going to either break up or cool off over the TA.  Logan could tell Rory that when she knows what she wants, she can call him.  Since they're in different states, that wouldn't be so hard to take a break from each other.  And, then, the ominious, "But, don't take too long."  And, then, depending on which way the show is leaning, Rory could  not go to Logan at the end of the season and we know it's over if the show ends, or we wait for next season to see if she does, or she does go at the end, and it's still possible that trouble might be on the horizon.  I'm just not sure that the R/L relationship is still under the protection of not being that important anymore.

I also had a dream that there was an ask Ausiello column out, and someone asked how the TA was going to effect R/L and would they break up.  Ausiello wrote that no, not only would they not break up, but they would get engaged.  And, now I know I spend too much time thinking of fake people if I start dreaming about them.  And, too much time reading spoilers if I dream in spoilers.

I'm antsy also and am comforted to know I'm not the only one.  Here's a thought that's been running around my mind..what if the TA crush was played off in a "non-threatening" way?  Could he be really smart and her crush be one of awe - Logan totally aware of it from the beginning and knowing it was just Rory - she smells books, rubs Pushkins toe and has a crush on the TA....I could live with this, but my fear is I'm wasting my time and energy trying to come up with safe scenarios. 

I want some good R/L spoilers from Ausiello! At this point I'm convinced its going to work out with L/L so I'm not as desperate for spoilers, no chewing my hair there.  However, if L/L start working out does that mean R/L have trouble because TV shows need "drama?"  I ask myself these questions constantly.  Yet, I should probably be asking myself, "Why am I obsessing about a fictional love match....?" lol

So, for anyone who cares to say, what do you like most about them as a couple?  Also, what are some of your favorite episodes that deal with the relationship (even if the entire episode isn't about the relationship)?

Off the top of my head, my favorite episodes are Driving Miss Gilmore (when Logan comes home from the hospital) Partings (Logan leaves for London) and The Lorelai Planetarium (article fight).  And, "Mayfly" is still my favorite one word response of Logan's.

Hard to pick just one, so here's a few: The episode in which the Yale Daily News publishing is saved by Rory - you get to see Logan working and enjoying his "life calling."  The Lorelai Planetarium, and lastly, the episode that shows their "first date" (Chinese, Talk or something).  I like that one because it showed Logan feeling unsure...

Pretty much any episode with them I enjoy, but those are in the top.

Yes, I did notice the trust fund comment.  Out of concern that it would put Rory and Lucy (especially Lucy) in an awkward position, maybe he should have found some way to side stepped the issue (but I don't think he went there with the intent of saying anything beforehand) but I'm not really feeling any sympathy for BFL who not only was sullen and rude to Logan tonight, but was behaving rude to Rory last week, and they're supposed to be friends.

I cringed when I heard the trust fund comment - that was totally uncalled for and rude!  I agree, I don't think Logan intended to out Marty.  However when faced with a direction question that could not be answered without lying, and coupled with how he felt anyway I think it gave him in an out to tell Lucy the truth.  Logan is a straight-up, calls it like it is guy (probably one reason I like him so much ), he doesn't play games and tells the truth in a situation even if in the short term people are upset.

Nails are going to be gone and hair in shreds by January....I really hope that Rory & Logan work through this and DR doesn't break them up! I agree with Logan, but he didn't quite go about it right.  They shouldn't have gone to dinner until Lucy knew the truth.  I'm not surprised by Logan because he's always been a straight-shooter who doesn't play games.  Rory knew better.

Chris - he's really getting aggravating.  Being rude at the party planning was uncalled for and childish!  Lorelai also got on my nerves when she was at her parents house meeting with the party planner.  Why doesn't she offer constructive alternatives that would accomplish her mother's goal yet allow the decor to be according to her (Lorelai's) taste!

I must admit, this episode was not my favorite.  Everyone got on my nerves at one point or the other.  Luke needs to get a second opinion from another lawyer....where'd he find this guy?  Only Kirk & Liz were funny and of course the scene w/Lorelai, Luke, and Dula (sp?) was very sweet.

Off to anxiously search for spoilers that will ease my worried R/L mind!

I think consideration was part of her motivation.  She didn't like how she felt and the result (her sleeping on bathroom floor smashed) and being Rory, didn't want him to wonder "what happened to her" and experience the same feeling.  Now, I think Logan would have easily figured out what was going on if she just started dating someone exclusively, but we tend to assume that people are going to react the same way we would - thus the conversation. *does this make sense, I feel like I'm talking gibberish - been studying political science too long!*

Even though they weren't in a formal relationship it was still common courtesy to notify Logan she had changed her mind.  Communication is important - even in casual friendships. Rory is big about talking things through...

OK - I think that's all I'm going to say on this particular subject.

Why go and deliver a speech?  Fair play and a reasserting of her self respect, in my opinion.  Better to go and say, "this isn't me, it's not the girl I want to be" and to be honest and above board.    I think she told him because if you're going to change the balance of things it's more honorable to inform the other party.  Also, because she knew how it felt to be full of uncertainty when you don't know what someone is thinking.  She ended up on the bathroom floor because she assumed Logan had cut down on calls out of some dislike of her "Why doesn't he like me?  What did I do?"  It's better to not have someone assume something.  With her speech, Logan knew exactly why she made the attempt to stop things.  It's a courtesy.

I agree.  I hate it in relationships, any relationship not just bf/gf, when one individual is not clear and open with the other.  I think it took a lot of guts for Rory to admit that it "wasn't her."  She did agree to the arrangement at Wedding Bell Blues, now she's admitting basically that Logan was right about what he said then.  That takes guts, especially when you like the guy!

I don't think it was an ultimatum for 2 reasons. If you watch Rory's body language she's not defensive or offensive, she's merely sharing, stating facts.  Logan however had undergone a "transformation" since Wedding Bell Blues when he said he couldn't committ.  My opinion, and I'm a huge R/L fan, is that he realized how they complimented each other and wanted to explore a relationship. Thus because he didn't want to end the relationship, he interpreted it as an ultimatum, cause for him it was.

Frankie Says Relax.  According to DR, the R/L relationship will complicate and deepen with his return to the States.  This alludes to some tumult, but not to destruction.  I would hope that the L/C/L triange would be enough relationship drama to deal with and they don't have to split Rory and Logan

Trying, trying.  Someone on another message board said that tv shows usually have the lead relationship full of drama and big break ups and reconcilliations and rollercoasters of emotions and then they have the secondary which float on a more even keel.  Problems that need to be worked through, but less nerve wracking things than the main couple.  And, the L/C/L thing seems to be the main storyline so maybe the mess will stay there.

I hope you're right.  R/L are in such a good place right now.  Not the cheesy happy cause everything's good, but the growing as adults together, working through conflict and disagreements like maturing individuals.  I just got my haircut short so its not available to eat!!

Good point LovelyLaura, I guess I'm just tired of the Chris hate mail here. I get that people want Lorelai with Luke. Fine, but it just seems like picking at him because of his money is petty. And I'm just totally disappointed in Babette and Miss Patty - and I usually LOVE THEM! I love the townspeople, but Stars Hollow has never appeared so unwelcome before. They just weren't fair to Chris. Before, Miss Patty had the hots for him, now she snubs him like this? That's not right.

And, again, it's not just Christopher they're being unwelcome to.  Although they are behaving pretty much like Richard did with Dean way back when Rory brought him to dinner.  Only with a veneer of "cordiality"  Oh, we were perfectly nice to him -on the surface.  What gets me is that by treating Christopher that way, they're essentially being rude and mean to Lorelai, the person they're supposedly doing this for.  They're making Lorelai uncomfortable.  And, since when is a grown woman's marriage decided by committee?

I'm not saying Miss Patty has to invite Christopher over for dinner or Babette has to go out to the movies with him -or make Morey go.  They don't have to be friends with him.  They should however, treat him with the same amount of friendliness that they would show to anyone getting married -as evidenced by the "real" welcome wagon which they denied him.  I say that it's mean to anyone and especially disrespectful to Lorelai.

Luke is also the guy who punched Christopher in the face.  Somehow that doesn't really give someone cause to be deferential towards him.  I'm also sure if Luke had reason to speak of Christopher, he wouldn't be using polite terms either.

I agree, sort of - they are being cordial. They gave them a welcome wagon - if they wanted to be rude they could have witheld the wagon.  No Babette didn't "pinch him" but she was cordial, nice, and even attempted to smooth over the awkardness of the elopment.   True, a grown woman doesn't need a committee in order to decide who she marries. Yes, it is her life and she should be able to "run it" the way she wants. BUT - all that said, the person, in this case Lorelai, must realize that her actions impact others.  Stars Hollow is a small town, Lorelai is the "queen" (for lack of a better word).  I mean, remember in Season 1 when she told Dean that Rory was beloved by all....well I think the same applies to Lorelai....she is much beloved and she did marry an outsider after dumping a Stars Hollow lifelong resident.  Ultimately I think they need time and it should be given them.  Cordiality, politeness is acceptable they have a right to their feelings just as Lorelai has a right to marry whomever she pleases.  However, if someone calls Lorelai on the carpet for marrying Chris or is rude to Chris or Lorelai for that matter then I will totally jump on the "Stars Hollow Residents Being Mean Train."