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1  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 10, 2006, 08:39:58 pm
...For a loss of words, you sure said a lot, babe. Tongue

The other thing that's been annoying me lately is I've run into a lot of people who say "Pedophiles are homosexuals" or take it one step further and say "Homosexuals are pedophiles." Personally, I don't even think a male pedophile who assaults a little boy is necessarily homosexual- I think he's a deeply disturbed, kinky individual who was probably sexually abused himself at some point. But I hate that people seriously look at someone who's gay and go, "Ooh! Pedophile!" Uh. Noooo.
2  GilmoreGirls.org / Community Center / Re: Karma - Abused or Used? on: November 10, 2006, 08:36:31 pm
dani, they most certainly aren't there to show if people like your opinion or not. You shouldn't snark someone because you disagree with them.
3  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 10, 2006, 01:50:23 pm
To point out, that's just one church or one branch of one religion. But that really irritates me. Do they not realize that the gays were persecuted against in the Holocaust as well? That they stood side by side in the most morbid of alliances? You'd think they'd have some respect.
4  GilmoreGirls.org / Community Center / Re: Karma - Abused or Used? on: November 09, 2006, 04:25:05 pm
Guys, also, when you say you're being "mass snarked," please be a little more specific, like tell us roughly how many points you've lost. Because we could be potentially looking into someone who's lost 20+ points, and someone whining about 2 will have to be put on the backburner, lol.
5  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 04:20:00 pm
Yeah. Allen officially conceded at 3:15ish EST this afternoon and said he wouldn't call for a recount and waste tax payer dollars.

I really hope it's not McCain v. Hilary. Hilary is such a weak candidate.
6  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 02:45:57 pm
Technically, voting records aren't secret. But yeah, Cheney's the VP... and he's not liberal, anyway.

McCain is a senator from Arizona likely to run for President in 2008. He was tortured by the Vietcong, and is therefore conveniently a vocal anti-Bush supporter of prisoner rights.

Anyway, I don't think that scenario will ever come into play It's rare that every single member of a party votes the same way, unless it's a really, really strong issue. In that case, there's 51 Democrats, and 49 Republicans. No tie.

Aww, don't worry about it, Katie.
7  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 02:38:41 pm
...What are you talking about? McCain isn't Vice President.
8  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 02:00:07 pm
Well, they're not. Smiley

Although, I don't agree with what you said. At all, lol. I'm not sure how familiar you are with McCain's politics, but he's more liberal than many of the Democrats elected this year.
9  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 11:29:01 am
McCain is a "Republican." Considering he almost ran as a Democrat in 2004, I'd hardly count him as a Republican, lol.

I don't really see a gridlock ensuing between the Congress and President, at least not to the extent it would ensue between a split Congress. As for the percentages something needs to pass, Dani, it really depends on exactly what you're trying to pass. It can be anything from a simple majority (50% +1 vote), 2/3, or 3/4.

Anyway, I'm relieved the Republicans are out of power in Congress. For all the "great opinions" they apparently tout, they've been a lame duck for the past two years. I'm looking forward to having a real agenda in the houses, and seeing bills come up that mean something to the majority of America- not the entrepreneurs and military. (I don't have anything against the military, but I do think the rest of the country needs to be represented as well).
10  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Off topic: Political thread on: November 09, 2006, 06:10:05 am
I have to ask, to those of you who say you feel it would be better if Congress is split between parties... do you have any political science background? I'm not asking to be rude, but that would be the absolute worst outcome, as it yields political gridlock (a situation in which one House is for a bill and one is against it, paralyzing the government and making it nearly impossible to pass any important legislation).

From the point of view of most non-partisan political analysts, a split government- meaning the Presidency goes to one party, and full Congressional control to the other- is the best form of government, as it creates additional checks and balances without creating gridlock, and encourages compromise.
11  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: GilmoreGirls.org Forum Member Photos on: November 09, 2006, 06:05:20 am
Please post yoru pics here, everyone.  If you are a good looking gal, 18 years of age or older, please consider posting a swimsuit pic.

Or absolutely, positively don't. This isn't a porn site, or any other type of site for you to use to find dirty pictures of young girls. The majority of posters here are most definitely under 18, and this is most definitely unappropriate.

Pictures in swimsuits will be edited out by the moderating staff for your protection, girls.
12  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Who here has ever gone thru the whole comming out/cotillion thing? on: October 25, 2006, 09:31:38 am
I went through the whole experience, and if you guys want I can talk more about it later. I'm heading off to class in a few, though, so I probably shouldn't start getting into it now. Lets just say that it is... oddly represented on GG.
13  GilmoreGirls.org / Announcements / Re: Heidi's Soapbox: News, Opinions, and Things You Never Wanted to Know on: October 25, 2006, 09:28:31 am
You all have Summer to thank for finally getting me to spill my good news.  She wore me down.

I caught a homerun ball at a Dodgers game.

Hee.I pretty much accosted her yesterday.She was trying to be all vague and I was all sleep deprived so I think she told me just to shut me up from my rant about billionaire princes and, uh, inbreeding in royal families.... don't ask.

But as Heidi already knows... I'm super excited for her because that's like, one of the coolest things ever. Ahhh.

I forgot to ask on AIM, Heidi, but do you know who hit the HR?
14  Gilmore Girls / Unappreciation Threads / Re: Flyswatters Club #1- Chris loathers thread! on: October 24, 2006, 11:04:09 am
Alright... I'm not going to argue about the article because it's already out and there's no way you can change things in the past anyway, lol. But just please in future... make sure members consent first, and that they're able. I assure you I'm not trying to be a b*tch, but I do have a responsibility to the members here... and essentially a legal one to those under 13 (I don't know how familiar you are with forums, but in the US, parental consent forms are needed for a minor to sign up, and websites are held responsible to a certain extent for what happens, so it's mostly just a technical issue). You may not have done anything "wrong," as in incorrect, but using anyone's quotes without their permission, and when they clearly weren't "on the record" for your article, certainly isn't "right." Just in the future, please actually take the effort to get a member's permission to post their comments. Some people don't respond well to their comments being posted in other places... especially in an article that's going to call their viewpoint "extreme" or tear it apart, lol. The forum is open for guests to view, but supporting or debating a point made here is done here for a reason. When members post something here, it's because they expect feedback, if that makes sense.
15  Gilmore Girls / Unappreciation Threads / Re: Flyswatters Club #1- Chris loathers thread! on: October 24, 2006, 08:39:26 am
Summer,

Your SoundOff has been posted on MediaVillage (http://www.mediavillage.com/sound_off/ - you have to scroll down a little).  For the record, my responsibility is only to link to content I use, so I in no way violated protected content by linking to the forum threads.  Based on posts by some of your users earlier in this thread (urbanmonkey, tater1103, GilmoreGirls4evr, x_ch0c0, and Potterxxx), they were excited to be quoted and enjoyed my article.  I posted the link to my article in this thread because it was specifically against the Christopher-Lorelai relationship and I figured theyíd be interested.  Iím glad user TVPhan found it and posted it too.

As for the rest of your SoundOff, your college point is well-taken.  However, that was hardly the focus of my article.  I am employed by MediaVillage to write my opinion and thatís what I have done.  If it comes off as biased (though I did mention the pro-Christopher thread to balance things a little), thatís the point.  We are all entitled to our opinions; Iím just lucky enough to get mine on a website.

I sincerely hope I didnít burn any bridges here, as Iíd like to look to these forums as I write future articles.  Your posters arenít afraid to state their opinions in very colorful and expressive ways Ė thatís why I quoted them!  If youíd rather I avoid linking to this site in the future, please let me know.

Lisa



I'm well aware you were in your legal boundaries, but I don't necessarily think it's in moral or ethical boundaries. When people post opinions here, they're sharing them with other forum users- not the mass media or nameless fans who happen to click a link to an article. I don't have an issue with the use of GilmoreGirls.org's forum being mentioned in articles, but as you have an account here, I think it's only respectful to at least PM members you plan on quoting in the future. Opinions change, things are posted in a spur of the moment 'the episode just aired' dynamic, and there's members here who aren't technically old enough to be quoted without parental permission, let alone without permission at all. I'm not trying to be a b*tch, but it's in my job description to look out for the best interests of the forum and members; you can't quote 12 year olds with extreme viewpoints without there being an ethical dilemma. COPPA forms allow for their opinions to be shared on this site and this site alone, and it does technically become a legal issue when those opinions are transmitted without consent. Sure, not one anyone would be prosecuted for, but I think if I had a young daughter posting here, I'd be a little worried about things she said being quoted in articles without my knowledge.

As for the college thing, I'm sure as a writer you're aware that every point you make in an article/paper goes to proving our disproving a thesis, and I'm sure you know what a fact-checker is. It may not have been the point of the article, but using it as such is an insult to those who aren't college educated- I believe it's over 99% of the population. The bias in the "article" was extraordinary and in my opinion, it's worth mentioning- you're holding Christopher to entirely different standards than you hold the rest of the characters. The only time he was shown without a steady job and dependable income was six years ago, so it's inane to point to that as evidence, especially as he'd already settled down into a 9-5 type job well before the inheritance.

Short version: opinions are obviously respected around here, but uneducated ones aren't. Your lack of knowledge about Christopher's background comes off that way. In the future, if you plan to use the opinions of posters here, actively seek out their permission. They've consented to posting on GilmoreGirls.org, but by no way have they consented to having their posts published in relatively mainstream opinion pieces. Some of them cannot legally consent to that.
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