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961  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 14, 2006, 05:07:45 PM
I agree that Emily and Richard treat Lorelai as if she were a teenager because that's where their relationship went seriously wrong. It's as if they all became stuck in the past and emotionally can't move forward from that time. Lorelai certainly reverts back to her adolesence when she is around her parents,especially her mother. They need to heal their old emotional wounds in order to forgive, move on and treat each other as adults. I think Emily and Richard getting the house was a major step for them and that's why it was so extremely moving when Lorelai told Emily there wasn't going to be a wedding and actually broke down in front of her mother. She knew that house buying was a big deal and a step toward her parents finally accepting Luke. And when Emily actually put her hand on her daughter's shoulder in a gesture of comfort I almost fell on the floor! In the Gilmore house that gesture was as huge as if Emily had taken Lorelai in her arms and held her while she cried! She is not a demonstrative person and Lorelai knows that. That's probably why she went to cry on Sookie's shoulder afterward. I hope this is the beginning of the healing that Emily and Lorelai so desperately need. I also think Emily is envious of Lorelai and Rory's relationship because she never had that with her daughter. I think this is going to be a major time for growth in the characters and their relationships. They may take separate journeys for a while but I believe that Luke and Lorelai will be together again. Everything happens for a reason I say. Cheesy Can't wait for season 7! Have a great day everyone. Grin
962  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 13, 2006, 12:35:32 AM
Oooooh Kelverstone. WHACK with the pretty stick to you! Your sweet, kind words made my day. I consider myself hugged. Lol. Carianna and Kiddo welcome! I'm Lori and I'm 42. Gross123987 welcome to the over 30 thread. It'll be nice to have a guys perspective on GG.( If all the estrogen doesn't scare you away.) We have some very intelligent Gilmore Girl insights here as well as discuss how therapeutic GG is in our lives. It's much cheaper than therapy! Lol! So you're a combination of Dean and Luke? Hmmmmm. Grin
Michelle- If I write a book on my experiences it will be very touching, very inspirational and very funny. I would hope someone would read it! Maybe I'll include this little annecdote....
 I was taking my daughter Ariel out on a pass on Sunday to the movies and we totally had another Gilmore moment. I cherish what little time we get to spend and I'm trying very hard to have fun and build a good relationship with her. We were getting our movie snacks (no popcorn with a gallon of butter this time) and I cringed as Ariel decided to get a big bag of malted milk balls. I said, "You are so going to ping off the walls if you eat this." "I'll share it with you so I won't eat it all," she calmly replied. As we waited for the movie to begin Ariel decided it would be fun to fling malted milk balls into the air and catch them in her mouth. Yeah right! She nearly put out an eye several times and Whoppers were flying everywhere but into her mouth. Ariel laughed when I told her that someone was going to slip on one of those balls and get a concussion! I thought what a funny word- balls. We would bust up laughing every time I said balls in reference to the malted milk balls. It wasn't dirty. It was just silly."You'd better stop throwing those balls in the air before one clocks someone in the head and we get kicked out of here," I giggled,"besides,you're wasting them and I want some too!" it was just some sweet fun between mom and teen and a moment I could see happening between Lorelai and Rory. Although I have a feeling it would be LORELAI throwing "balls" in the air and RORY commenting about clocking someone in the head! Lol!
 Ok, maybe I should start writing that book now. I may not have a lot of posts but it's not quantity it's quality I'm after. Everyone have a great day as we wait in joyful anticipation of season 7 of GG. Be happy and be healthy! Grin
963  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 11, 2006, 01:06:40 AM
Michelle, I agree with you that dating sucks! I haven't had a date since I left my abusive ex 12 years ago! I'd love to find a Luke. I can't even get a Kirk to ask me out! Lol! I don't even think I remember HOW to date. I can still watch GG and dream. You must be thinking "This woman must be a basket case! She's got Fibromyalgia, a severely mentally ill teenager, an abusive ex husband, and hasn't had a date in 12 years?! How is she still in one piece let alone still have a sense of humor?" Maybe I should write a book on my experiences. It definately wouldn't be boring! It has been really tough being a single parent under these circumstances but I keep challenging myself to grow and learn from my mistakes and I'm learning to just LOVE my daughter instead of judging her. This is a lesson I've learned from watching Emily and Lorelai interact. I have to remind myself "Don't be an Emily. Just love Ariel with all your heart and soul. She needs you to just love and accept her with all her problems." It works. Ariel and I are getting along better than ever. I just take it one day at a time and work hard to be positive. So one day my Luke will come! Until then I have the wonderfully entertaining lessons that the Gilmore Girls teach. Thank you Michelle and Kristin  for your kind words. They mean a lot to me. Pretty sticks to you guys! Have a Great Gilmore day! Grin
964  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 09, 2006, 11:03:24 PM
It's amazing how we parents view Gilmore Girls in a whole new light. It's not just about Lorelai and Rory etc, it's about family. We think of how we can have that kind of relationship with our kids. We want that strong bond of love, trust and respect with our kids and we relate to the struggles that Lorelai goes through. I have an almost 16 year old daughter (my only child) and I've made many mistakes raising her. She is growing up and our relationship is changing as well. I am working very hard at being more understanding with my daughter and building trust and communication. My daughter has severe mental illness and she needs not only a mother and advocate but a best friend since she never really had one. Like Lorelai, I want to be there for my daughter no matter what she goes through. Our relationship is getting better now that my daughter has been living at a residential treatment facility and getting the help she so desperately needed and that I couldn't help her with. She's been there since January and I'm looking forward to the day she can come home and we can begin anew. We used to love watching Gilmore Girls together. I can't wait til we can do that again. So, as I've stated before in previous posts, Gilmore Girls is very therapeutic and I will continue watching no matter how the stories unfold. Be happy. Be healthy. Live in the moment, love unconditionally and laugh til you can't breathe! Grin
965  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 09, 2006, 12:07:33 AM
Welcome aweroo and linty35 to the oldies thread! My name is Lori. I am 42 years old, a single mom of a near 16 year old daughter and pretty new to the forum myself so I'll be asking questions right along with you. Luckily, there are some wonderful people here to have intelligent conversations with without feeling like an old geezer. Grin Michelle, you totally rock! (Don't I sound young? Luckily you can't see the mass of gray hairs sticking up out of my spikey doo! Lol!) I agree with you on praising Lauren for her all around "Lauren-ess" and I love the spoilers cause the anticipation of waiting kills me. This is also my favorite thread and I'm with you on the "healing powers of GG's greatness" as I find that watching my GG dvds helps reduce the constant pain of Fibromyalgia and fatigue I live with.  Tongue Sometimes it's hard for me to even sit at my computer to join the forum fun cause the pain is so great so I don't get on as much as I want to. Michelle, I feel for you about the exhaustion of being a teacher when school starts up. Try being a Massage therapist with Fibromyalgia! Shocked Ouch! Thankfully, I can get immersed in the wonderful Gilmore world and laugh til the pain and fatigue lessen. So let us all be Gilmore happy as we await the new season. Grin
966  Gilmore Girls / Spoilers / Re: Discussion of Spoilers on: September 08, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
First off I'd like to say one thing...BREATHE people just breeeaaathe. o.k. now. Let's all remember that good characters grow and evolve with a show. I think there is a plan for all of this and we just need to be patient as things will fall into place. Lorelai has been emotionally dammaged since childhood thanks to her parents and their criticism. I think all of her relationship problems stem from that. I want to see her and Luke back together but that is not going to happen until she deals with the REAL source of her problems which we have all seen since day one- her relationship with Emily. I think she is the key. Maybe deep down Lorelai just feels unlovable and ends up sabotaging her relationships because of it. I personally think she is heading for a major meltdown and subsequent healing of her emotional wounds. So lets bear with it. Even in life there are times when things are excruciatingly tedious but things will unfold as our favorite characters go through their angst and heal. I actually enjoy complex characters and the challenge of trying to figure out WHY they say and do what they do. So like a real marriage, we should stick with our beloved denizen of Stars Hollow in SICKNESS and in health. This too shall pass. Smiley
967  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: September 01, 2006, 12:47:39 AM
I also think that Lorelai and Christopher love each other but not in that lets- get- married - and- live- happily-everafter way. They have a long history and a child (abeit a grown one) and have been friends since they were kids. It makes sense that she has turned to him in the past. I believe that Lorelai and Luke are meant to be together. Has has been her friend for a long time and understands all her neuroses. They inspire each other to take a look at their own lives through their many arguments. They can't stay mad at each other. I think that's why their relationship has always been so special. Even when they argue, they find ways to compromise and see themselves and each other in a different light. They challenge each other to grow. Lets hope that continues to happen because i really enjoy the relationship dynamics in Gilmore Girls. It's funny yet wonderfully complex. Just like life!
968  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Have you ever had a stella? on: September 01, 2006, 12:01:58 AM
I've been whacked with the pretty Stick?? Wow! I feel so special! I'm having a moment.. sniff... I'm good now. Grin My "Stella" was actually named Mary. How original huh? And I really DID have the cutest egg in the class. No one else decorated their egg. It was a shame I had to abandon my "baby" after the project. Can you be arrested for tossing your baby egg in the trash? Oh the horror! I'm glad THAT part wasn't graded! Lol! Tongue Other than that, I was a great mom.
969  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Have you ever had a stella? on: August 30, 2006, 11:48:14 PM
Wow!! I had a sort of Stella. It was an unfertilized egg that we had to take care of when I was in 7th grade waaaaaay back in the day.(I'm 42 so apparently chickens/eggs as school projects is not new!) I painted a cute face on my egg (I'm artistic and crafty) and made a tissue diaper and bonnet for it!! I had the cutest egg in the class! I put it in a little box made up as a bed and carried it around to school and at home. I was a very responsible mom and didn't drop my baby once. Now that I think about it, I'm glad I didn't drop it. Can you imagine the smell of a broken UNREFRIGERATED egg that's been carried around for a week???!! I guess it meant that if you were careless enough to drop your "baby" then you "stink"! HAHAHA!! Grin
970  Gilmore Girls / Cast and Characters / Re: Who do you wanna meet & why?? on: August 26, 2006, 12:27:02 AM
Wow! I would want to meet everyone but especially Lauren and Alexis because their portrayals of Lorelai and Rory have been a HUGE inspiration for me. As a single mom of a teenaged daughter who has severe mental illness and has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals since before she turned 6 years old it has been very tough and heartbreaking to raise her. Watching GG has given me hope to work on my relationship with my daughter. We would watch it together and laugh. It has been a way for us to bond. I told my daughter (who is almost 16) that we need to have the kind or relationship that Lorelai and Rory have with love and TRUST and FRIENDSHIP. I told her that I want to be her best friend b/c friends come and go but I will ALWAYS be there for her no matter what! In Gilmore Girls I have found HOPE instead of despair, Laughter instead of tears, and faith to never give up on my only child. I would want to tell Lauren and Alexis what an inspiration they are to me and thank them. I hope some day my wish will come true. Grin
971  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: August 24, 2006, 11:00:07 PM
Hi everyone! I'm back! I couldn't get on the org  for a few days and I didn't go online yesterday at all so I'm playing catch up. I have another funny story for ya! I just realized that my parakeet, Tweety, is a Gilmore fan too! I've noticed that EVERY time Gilmore Girls comes on she starts to dance around in her cage and chirps like crazy during the theme song!!! Well, she's either a GG fan or REALLY likes Carole King songs! Although she likes Sam Phillips' LaLas too! At first I thought she was just a goofy bird but when she began singing EVERY TIME "Where You Lead I will Follow" started up I just fell on the floor! She jumps around her cage like she was on caffeine and dances on her perch. It's histerical! Any one else have any furry of feathered Gilmore Girl fans in their home??  Grin
972  Gilmore Girls / Cast and Characters / Re: Gilmore Girls: Stop Being Smart!!! on: August 21, 2006, 11:27:42 PM
Wow Dani257! Well said! I think it's good to show characters with intelligence as well as street smarts which is the kind of intelligence that comes from experiencing life and learning the lessons it teaches us every day. I applaud Gilmore Girls for showing characters that can not only think on their feet but make the same mistakes that everyone else does. Book smarts does not necessarily mean smart in the relationship department. Our Girls may be smart but they are flawed and THAT'S what makes them so endearing. O.K. rant over. Smiley
973  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: August 21, 2006, 11:00:32 PM
Hey Michelle! You can't netflix the movie Step Up yet because it is in the theaters right now (unless you live in another country besides the U.S. and it hasn't been released there) so all the afore mentioned "Gilmoring" happened live in the theater! I KNOW my daughter and I were getting eyeballed by people around us for our juvenile excitement! Or maybe the crazy mother was! Hey my motto is" If you're happy and you know it clap, flap, high five, or do some other thoroughly embarrassing thing to show your glee!"
Also, if being smart is uncool then I'm the biggest DORK of all! I'm pretty intellegent and I've never been cool. That's why I like GG so much. Not only is it witty and entertaining, I LIKE having my brain cells challenged! It's what keeps you from going senile! Hahaha! Have a great day! Grin
974  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: What do you have with you while watching GG on: August 21, 2006, 10:09:38 PM
Obviously I have the remote. I sit in my comfy recliner with my memory foam neck pillow for optimal comfort. If it's cool I have my little blanky for my legs. I have my bottle of water and I like to get my ultimate Gilmore Girl watching food....a big Carvel vanilla soft serve sundae with those yummy chocolate crunchies, hot fudge, whipped cream and a cherry! I'm originally from New York and I grew up on Carvel ice cream and when they opened some stores in San Diego (where I live now) I was so psyched!!!! THAT is the way to greet a Tuesday night Gilmore extravaganza!! Any one else into Carvel ice cream?  Grin
975  Gilmore Girls / General Discussion / Re: Fans over 30 on: August 21, 2006, 12:16:46 AM
honkifuluvGG - Thanks for the welcome! I feel like I have some connection to the outside world now! Pathetic isn't it? I don't get out much. While my daughter is in a residential facility for her mental illness I am a live-in caregiver for a 91 year old lady who is very cool but doesn't get the Gilmore Girls! So I watch by myself. It's nice to have people to talk to here. Pretty Sticks to you and every one of us Elder Intellectuals!!!! And no I didn't go out and buy a Bangles greatest hits cd! That's right! I may be a dork but I'm a cool dork! I even "Gilmored" a movie with my daughter! We saw Step Up and it ROCKED!!! We danced in our seats, whispered comments to each other, did knuckle hits and high fives and downed popcorn with enough butter that my daughter's skirt was soaked in it! I said," I hope they have about a gallon of spraynwash at the dorm to clean those clothes!"  She laughed as I told her to go easy on the butter next time. She said, "my legs feel all slippery now." I replied, "You smell like a bucket of popcorn and if I gave you a massage I wouldn't need to use any more oil!" (I am a Holistic Health Practitioner and do massage for a living hence the hhp in my name). She laughed. It was so great to have a real Lorelai/Rory moment like that while I took my daughter out on pass.
Michelle, I have to say I totally agree with you on the Dean thing! Dean totally gets the relationship between Lorelai and Rory and understands their Quirks. It was very sweet to see him comfort Rory, although I agree that she shouldn't have slept with him while he was married. Logan is really trying to change his playboy ways so he has potential AND he loves her. Sorry Literati fans, but I think Jess was far too moody to really GET Rory and there were so many things that she liked but he didn't. I don't think they were a good match but that's just my opinion. All in all I just want to see both Rory AND Lorelai find happiness in the love department. While Lorelai and Christopher have a strong bond, I don't think he's the one for her. She needs to quit drinking around him! She gets tipsy, loses all inhibitions and BAM! she's in bed with him! Alcohol seems to be a factor in their relationship. Any one agree with me? Luke has always been her friend and they have a strong connection. HE is the one she turns to for support. I believe they are meant for each other. Again, it's just my opinion. I could go on and on about the psychology of GG but I won't. We can discuss that at another time because with age comes experience and wisdom hopefully. So I'm sure there will be much wisdom imparted on the psychology of Gilmore Girls by us aging fans! Til next time... peace, love and massive amounts of coffee!!!!
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