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1  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: January 16, 2018, 02:48:21 am
Wow, just saw A Year in the Life and started thinking about this site again. So cool to discover it still exists and this thread is still here! Thanks so much, gilmoregirls.org for a lovely trip down Memory Lane!
2  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: October 28, 2007, 07:56:28 pm
LOL, good for you!

And whom did you think is better for Lorelai:  Luke or Chris or ..?
3  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: October 22, 2007, 03:41:54 pm
That's cool, Laurao.  So which character do you identify with most?
4  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: April 25, 2007, 12:47:25 pm
I thought Luke was very ISTJ in last night's show as he and Lorelai went car shopping.  He wanted to approach things logically and practically and was very out of step with Lorelai's intuitive-feeling approach.

Paris seemed rather ENTJ to me, analytical and in charge.
5  Episode Discussion / Season 4 / Re: 4.10 - The Nanny and the Professor on: April 02, 2007, 05:24:13 pm
Interesting that the part of Andy was played by Monique Coleman, later better known for her wardrobe malfunction on Dancing With the Stars.
6  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 29, 2007, 03:08:16 pm
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I didn't want their relationship to end, but beyond that, there seemed to be something wrong about how it ended that seemed to sort of rewrite their relationship or their history to me.  Christopher's absence at the hospital I think was supposed to show sort of typical ESFP behaviour, in that he likes to have fun but when it comes to a crisis, he's not much support.  And then throughout the next episode it was mentioned several times that Christopher avoids conflict, he wasn't there to support Lorelai.  I think in the end that was supposed to show not that Christopher's a bad guy,

I think another thing it was supposed to show was the contrast between a marriage that's working (Richard-Emily) and one that isn't (Chris-Lorelai).

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but that Lorelai and Christopher's relationship was rooted in fun and teenage affection and that marriage is about being there for each other in better or for worse, a foundation they didn't have.  A problem which I could have seen in the earlier seasons, but as I said I thought they were more mature than that about their relationship in the earlier part of Season 7.  And if I did imagine their relationship ending, I'd imagine it going down with a few passionate emotional fights and then a painful recognition that they were much better off as good friends, leaving the partners-for-life side out of it.  Because they're both such emotional people and so similar in personality.  But I think it was kind of odd that they both had this sort of sudden rational, mutual decision to end their relationship.  As though they rationally decided that their relationship was too much based on teenage emotion to survive.  If they could be rational about ending their relationship I'm not sure why they couldn't be calm and rational enough to sustain their relationship.  Oh well.  That's probably an unpopular opinion.

You raise good points.  I think it's easy for things to fall apart for two E types though as both can be looking outward.  Neither one is truly the type to hold things together against all odds.  I find your ending more appropriate for these characters too.
7  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 29, 2007, 03:04:31 pm
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April is totally an NT type.  I think she might be an extrovert as well, or headed in that direction as an adult once she outgrows the early teenage phase of feeling different from her peers because of her intellectual interests.  I actually think her personality fits better with Luke's than Lorelai's.  She's just as blunt and factual as he can be, but she seems to be quicker on her feet and more likely to blurt outright what he might only be thinking internally.

Yes, she has the bluntness of an NT who hasn't learned just how all the (sometimes annoying) niceties of society work yet.  She is able to get a good handle on Luke's thoughts by use of her N (intuition).  In some ways, come to think of it, she is probably a good bridge between Lorelai and Luke, i.e. can get along well with both of them, sharing the T with Luke and the N with Lorelai.


8  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 29, 2007, 03:00:58 pm
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I'm not sure how much of that Luke and Lorelai have, though.  Other than Stars Hollow I really don't know what they have in common.  I guess on TV, though, those kind of relationships can work.

Thanks for your comments, with which I agree.  I think at the very least Lorelai will want to do a lot more traveling that Luke will want to do.  Doubtful she will be happy only with short trips on Luke's new boat.
9  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 09, 2007, 02:32:19 pm
Good to hear, Lessa (I think Smiley).

I have a good friend who is INFP and loves the show.  She just happens to have a daughter who is the same age as Rory, so she really identifies.  She thinks Lorelai is similar except when Lorelai takes such pleasure in some seemingly boring things like the museum of the history of the town and the like.
10  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 08, 2007, 11:16:33 am
I agree, that those too could be the actions of an INFJ, though also SJs are very good in this kind of crisis too because of their innate desire to be providers.

Yes, the fights with Christopher could be NF behavior because NFs tend to be quite zealous.  Many missionaries have probably been NFs.

I would think that, nerdy as she is, April is probably an NT (as am I by the way) Rational, the scientist type.  I'm not quite sure what her other two letters would be yet.

I suppose the writers would have us feel that Luke is different now because he has finally solved his crises over April -- has overcome his stress, but the idea that April has made him a more well-rounded person is definitely an interesting one.

I agree with you about ESFPs -- very fun people.  For example, it's practically impossible to have a good party without one.  xSFP types are also very generous and Christopher has also demonstrated this.  In real life I suspect that most actors are ESFPs, including on this show.  I would not be bothered at all by a Lorelai-Christopher outcome as it seems to me they had a good foundation and his leaving was rather too abrupt for me to buy.  But I guess a TV show thrives on conflict and problems in order to give the characters an emotional workout so ESFP characters tend to come in to trigger it.  *Sigh* once again it's the story of the Ant and the Grasshopper, isn't it?  When is a show going to give us the Grasshopper's point of view?  (Well probably some do but I'm just not thinking of them right now.)

Thanks so much for joining the conversation with this interesting post!

P.S.  After watching Tuesday's show, seems like Mia is likely to be an NF type, like Lorelai, which might help explain why the two got along so well, and another reason why she's not so popular with Emily.
11  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 07, 2007, 03:34:45 pm
On last night's episode, when Luke realized why Zach was peppering him with so many questions/concerns about fatherhood, I thought that for a moment Luke was once again an INFJ using his iNtuition and Feelings to understand Zach, something which Luke used to do all the time in seasons 1-5, but has not done much at all in the last season and a half.
12  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: March 06, 2007, 04:12:50 pm
Thanks, Dani. Nice to feel I'm not just talking to myself. Smiley

Yes, I agree Rory is hard to figure out.  I put it down to different writers seeing different aspects. Also, though important, Rory isn't really the main character -- Lorelai is.  So if they need a story to throw Lorelai into a new direction, it sometimes happens that Rory is compromised a bit.

Actually it's too bad that they haven't defined Rory better over the years.  If they had, maybe she could be the center of a spinoff show.  But I don't see that being possible as things are at this point.

The tribal thing makes a lot of sense to me.  Thanks for contributing it!

Logan seems like a fun-loving ESFP to me who is currently trying to buckle down, but probably backsliding fast (i.e. Vegas).

As to ENFP-INTP relations, the socionics.com site might also be interesting here:

Illusionary relations between psychological ("personality") types

These are relations of growing laziness. There are no other intertype relations that can deactivate partners so much as Illusionary relations. Illusionary partners find it comfortable being relaxed together, discussing different subjects. What one partner is talking about is always interesting, but in order to understand the partner better the other partner needs to force themselves. This difficulty in making an effort also makes achieving goals together almost impossible.

Mutual business or other activity is complicated, because Illusionary partners do not understand the reasons and motives of each other's actions. Whatever one partner tries to achieve usually appears insufficient and worthless to the other. Because partners expect different kinds of activity from each other, they become negative and may criticise each other's intentions and objectives. For an observer, this misunderstanding between partners can appear to be humorous.

The introvert partner usually tries to free themselves from the attempts of the extrovert partner to impose their opinions. The introverts seek independence. The extrovert partner wants to make their introvert partner into what they consider to be a "normal person". Both partners are distrustful of each other abilities.

Disagreements in these relations are usually short because partners are drawn to each other. From time to time Illusionary relations become really warm and caring. It normally happens when partners work together but not on the same task. Partners may feel inspired with the result of a successfully finished project, however when they try to start a new project, they again meet the same difficulties in co-operation.

13  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: February 06, 2007, 11:31:12 am
Now that we are kind of settling on which types the characters are, let's see if we can take the next step and apply the findings.

It appears that Luke and Lorelai are an ENFP-ISTJ couple.  Since they don't share a single letter, being opposite in every single category, does this bode well for their relationship?  Here's one analysis of ENFP with ISTJ:

In problem solving, ISTJ will want a clear idea of the problem (I) and attack it by looking for the facts (S) and by relying on a logical, impersonal (T), step-by-step approach in reaching conclusions. In contrast, ENFP will throw out all sorts of possibilities (N), seeking feedback from the environment to clarify the problem (E). Brainstorming (NP) will be enjoyed. The human aspects of the problem (F) are likely to be emphasized over impersonal, technical issues (T). To the ISTJ, the ENFP approach is likely to seem irrational or scattered. To the ENFP, the ISTJ approach is likely to seem slow and unimaginative.

(From http://chiron.valdosta.edu/whuitt/papers/prbsmbti.html)

Also, what about Rory and her hoped-for career as a reporter?  One usually thinks of reporters as people interested in going out into the world, enjoying talking to lots and lots of people to get the story.  But we have classified her as an Introverted I.  Is it possible that becoming a reporter would be going against the grain for her and that writing as a columnist or analyst might be a more natural fit?
14  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: February 01, 2007, 11:59:30 am
Thanks, Ella.

I hear you, but in the early days Luke could seem quite intuitive.  Of course maybe we just didn't know him so well then...  if you see the earlier seasons let us know what you think!

You could certainly be right about the bohemian girls.  One thing I would like to note though is that being a chatterbox doesn't necessarily indicate E.  An I person can actually talk quite a lot if conditions are right, i.e. in a very small group or one-on-one.  In fact they may talk more than an E in those situations since they have more things suppressed from other situations.
15  Gilmore Girls / Fun and Games / Re: MBTI types of the characters on: January 31, 2007, 10:51:40 am
Thanks for the reply, Ella!

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Rory--probably INTP (or J?  She's supposed to be very organized.)

I wonder if she is truly organized or just relatively more organized than Lorelai, which may not be that high a bar. Smiley  Also, INTJ can be very determined and anti-social and I just don't see that from Rory.  I'm INTJ myself btw. Wink

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Luke--classic ISTJ

Do you feel that he has always been so?  In the earlier seasons I felt he was really much more INFJ.

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Richard--ESTJ
Emily--ISTJ?

I thought Richard might be an E because he is more studious, likes reading all the time and usually is not out trying to change the world.  Emily on the other hand seems to be out doing things with the DAR, charities and busying herself in others' lives, which seems E.

By the way, I suspect that Rory's two "bohemian" friends are both ISFP.
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